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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects
« on: August 27, 2015, 12:03:27 PM »
I think it's probably a situation where in junior a player might be able to have primarily defensive zone draws but overcome it in the possession numbers whereas in the NHL if they were given a same number of defensive zone draws it would be more difficult to post positive possession numbers.  I think there are probably a number of defensive first centre's in the NHL where the possession numbers aren't great but I think analytics people would still agree they are good defensive players.  I can't think off-hand of players who primarily play defensively the way Gauthier has (Malholtra maybe) and still put up really good possession metrics.  But maybe they look better by other ones, I'm not sure.

Fair enough. Either way Gauthier isn't a guy who I think could be credibly said to have had his draft position largely influenced by how he might look to an analytically minded team and that was more my argument re: Dermott. That he might fit this new mold of defensemen without obvious attributes but who the numbers love. Gauthier seems to fit into a traditional concept of a 3rd line center pretty neatly.

Yeah I think Gauthier was ranked based on scouts viewing of him, there were constant comments about his positioning defensively being so far advanced for instance.

Ideally the team will have traditional scouts having their expertise augmented by more statistics to enable them to do their job better.  I think you'll see more of the Dermott type players popping up in earlier rounds as their skill sets start to be noticed or targeted earlier.

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Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects
« on: August 27, 2015, 11:31:36 AM »
Is that similar to what Dubas said about Gauthier?

I think Gauthier is a different phenomenon where he has one attribute that is easily identifiable and highly prized(size) and his supposed defensive ability was always what carried him to a first round grade.

You might know this and not me but I can't really think of a player who sort of fits the Gauthier mold in the NHL of being a primarily defensive center who the advanced stats guys love and will argue is much more valuable than traditional metrics show. In fact, the way I understand things, those guys tend to be players that possession numbers tend not to reflect well on as they're in their own zone a lot.

I think it's probably a situation where in junior a player might be able to have primarily defensive zone draws but overcome it in the possession numbers whereas in the NHL if they were given a same number of defensive zone draws it would be more difficult to post positive possession numbers.  I think there are probably a number of defensive first centre's in the NHL where the possession numbers aren't great but I think analytics people would still agree they are good defensive players.  I can't think off-hand of players who primarily play defensively the way Gauthier has (Malholtra maybe) and still put up really good possession metrics.  But maybe they look better by other ones, I'm not sure.

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Series 39: Jays at Rangers
« on: August 26, 2015, 10:10:27 PM »
This lineup is ridiculous.  Edwin just extended his hit streak to 21 games with a grand slam to make it 10-2.  10 unanswered runs.

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Bautista boycotting Sportsnet?
« on: August 26, 2015, 03:40:14 PM »
So dumb, I don't know why Bautista always seems to be pissy about something. Publicly pissy too. Pick your battles and stay out of the extra curriculars. Sportsnet is also dumb to allow it to continue over peanuts.

Did I mention this is dumb?

How is Bautista being "publicly pissy" about something he's not commented on and which no one has known about for 3 months until Brendan Kennedy with the Toronto Star found out about it?

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Re: Cody Franson
« on: August 25, 2015, 11:23:22 AM »
I don't know how Franson is in the same position he's been in the last 3 years.  He'll most likely end up signing a 1 year deal at mid-range money again.  How does his agent still have his job?

Maybe it's his own fault.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: August 25, 2015, 09:16:01 AM »
Anyone see Top of the Lake?  It's on Netflix, a second season is coming out soon.  Elizabeth Moss from Mad Men stars in it, set in New Zealand.  Won't give too much away, but it has a pretty dark, strange vibe to it.  I think if you watched The Killing season 1 and enjoyed it you would probably enjoy this too.

American IP address needed? I can't find it on Netflix.

Ah sorry about that! Sometimes forget which one I'm signed in to when I watch something.

On another, non-Netflix note: has anyone been watching Show Me a Hero from HBO?

Haven't see this show, but it looks like a pretty good cast. I'll watch most things HBO and SHO... is this one any good?

I think it's very good (who wouldn't get excited about 1980s municipal housing in Yonkers, New York?).  It's done by David Simon so if you're familiar with The Wire or his other work you sort of know it's going to be a quality show.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Lou Lamoriello named Leafs General Manager
« on: August 24, 2015, 01:30:26 PM »
I think it's pretty safe to call this situation unconventional/unique.

And to that I say: good.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: August 24, 2015, 09:18:53 AM »
Anyone see Top of the Lake?  It's on Netflix, a second season is coming out soon.  Elizabeth Moss from Mad Men stars in it, set in New Zealand.  Won't give too much away, but it has a pretty dark, strange vibe to it.  I think if you watched The Killing season 1 and enjoyed it you would probably enjoy this too.

American IP address needed? I can't find it on Netflix.

Ah sorry about that! Sometimes forget which one I'm signed in to when I watch something.

On another, non-Netflix note: has anyone been watching Show Me a Hero from HBO?

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Series 38: Blue Jays at Angels
« on: August 24, 2015, 09:03:12 AM »
I am pleased with how this series went.

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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Re: Nik Anrtropov
« on: August 20, 2015, 01:57:08 PM »
Yeah, I still think they're confusing him with Poni.

Not sure if being sarcastic, but if not, Ponikarovsky became a Canadian citizen in June 2007.

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Nik Antropov and Alexei Ponikarovsky: Identified primarily by their birthplaces, Kazakhstan and the Ukraine, both players are Canadian citizens

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=461551

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Despite the distance between them during the season, the pair said they remain close and both have become Canadian citizens and make their off-season homes in Toronto.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/ponikarovsky-puts-on-a-clinic-for-old-pal/article1205697/


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Former Leafs: Ex-Files / Re: Nik Anrtropov
« on: August 20, 2015, 01:31:02 PM »
A number of online sources say Antropov became a Canadian citizen.  A couple are pay-locked but here's one that isn't:

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Nik Antropov became a Canadian citizen in May. A month later, he accepted a two-year extension worth US$4-million to remain a Maple Leaf.

Link

His biography on Eliteprospects.com mentions it, as does his Wikipedia page.  A couple articles collected here from 2005 where he states his plans to become a Canadian citizen.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: August 20, 2015, 11:58:20 AM »
Anyone see Top of the Lake?  It's on Netflix, a second season is coming out soon.  Elizabeth Moss from Mad Men stars in it, set in New Zealand.  Won't give too much away, but it has a pretty dark, strange vibe to it.  I think if you watched The Killing season 1 and enjoyed it you would probably enjoy this too.

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NHL Transactions / Ducks sign Mike Santorelli
« on: August 17, 2015, 02:25:36 PM »
1 year deal, $875K


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@CraigCustance

Santorelli 1-year deal worth $875K.

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Series 35: Athletics at Blue Jays
« on: August 13, 2015, 12:30:29 AM »
I'm, I'm so happy.

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Series 35: Athletics at Blue Jays
« on: August 12, 2015, 12:51:12 PM »
Gibbons said after the game:

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@LottOnBaseball 

Gibbons, on why hes giving Buehrle an extra days rest: He was a little beat up that last time out.  You know, hes an old man. This time of year, its not going to hurt him.

I'm assuming he's implying Buehrle is getting fatigued and/or playing hurt because giving up 5 hits over 7 innings seems to not support the notion of his performance lagging.  Gibbons has been pulling him with a low pitch count the last few games.

I assume he means something nagging him, not beat up performance wise.

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