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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Jerseygate 14/15
« on: Today at 10:56:10 AM »
I'd just point out that, I'm guessing it the Leafs "in your fathers day" got beat 9-2 and had sucked for the better part of 10 years, jerseys may have been thrown on the ice. The other thing at play here is the cost of a ticket. Also tickets weren't even close to the same price in those days (as a percentage of income), athletes weren't getting paid as much etc.

What were ticket prices in those days?

Personally I wouldn't do it, but if someone feels disgusted enough to do that? Well they paid their ticket and all......

So if you pay for a ticket you can do whatever you want?

If you have time to read, there are some posts in here comparing 1992 to 2010. (I'm linking hf boards, the horror).

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=822919

I'll look for some prices from the 40's and 50's.

Thanks!  I found literally nothing when I googled it, which surprised me.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2014/15 Roster moves thread
« on: Today at 10:13:34 AM »
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@MapleLeafs

.@SportChek Player Alert: The #Leafs have recalled Petter Granberg & Josh Leivo from the Marlies. #TMLtalk

Nice to see someone other than Percy and Holzer come up, although I would have preferred Loov. Perhaps the Leafs want to handle him similar to Brown and Nylander and have him play a full AHL season before bringing him up for cups of coffee.

Yeah I'd loov if he was recalled but for now it's probably petter if he stays on the Marlies, more viktories down there too.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2014/15 Roster moves thread
« on: Today at 10:07:42 AM »
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@MapleLeafs

.@SportChek Player Alert: The #Leafs have recalled Petter Granberg & Josh Leivo from the Marlies. #TMLtalk

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: David Clarkson
« on: Today at 09:57:43 AM »
Wherein we discover Clarkson has 1 assist this season where he actually made a direct pass to someone and they scored.

1 assist (of his 10) during his Leafs career, not just this season.

Oh, right.  Even worse.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: David Clarkson
« on: Today at 09:43:00 AM »
For those who like piling on: http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/1/22/7867635/david-clarkson-is-a-balrog-he-cannot-pass

Wherein we discover Clarkson has 1 assist this season where he actually made a direct pass to someone and they scored.

EDIT: Make that 1 assist in his Leafs career where he actually made a direct pass to someone and they scored.

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All Sports But Hockey / Re: 2015 Toronto Blue Jays thread
« on: Today at 09:42:10 AM »
And here is a Toronto report that pretty much shows how blatantly incompetent the Jays have Ed Rogers has been:

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/23/the-inside-story-on-how-rogers-tried-to-replace-blue-jays-president-paul-beeston

Absolutely but Ed Rogers doesn't get a tampering charge, the Blue Jays do.

I know, I just don't think the entire organization deserves to be lumped in because of him (even if the organization gets a tampering charge).  He's the one being incompetent.

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All Sports But Hockey / Re: 2015 Toronto Blue Jays thread
« on: Today at 09:31:55 AM »
And here is a Toronto report that pretty much shows how blatantly incompetent the Jays have Ed Rogers has been:

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/23/the-inside-story-on-how-rogers-tried-to-replace-blue-jays-president-paul-beeston

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Jerseygate 14/15
« on: Yesterday at 08:52:15 PM »
I'd just point out that, I'm guessing it the Leafs "in your fathers day" got beat 9-2 and had sucked for the better part of 10 years, jerseys may have been thrown on the ice. The other thing at play here is the cost of a ticket. Also tickets weren't even close to the same price in those days (as a percentage of income), athletes weren't getting paid as much etc.

What were ticket prices in those days?

Personally I wouldn't do it, but if someone feels disgusted enough to do that? Well they paid their ticket and all......

So if you pay for a ticket you can do whatever you want?

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Ryan O'Reilly
« on: Yesterday at 08:30:05 PM »
Gardiner is a head scratcher. You can see the talent. And it's not the high risk plays that really bug me. At times he seems to not be moving his feet and watching the play develop instead of anticipating. Perhaps it's a lack of hockey sense?

I think, right now, it's more a lack of confidence than anything else.

You could be 100% correct. Most players don't make the NHL without hockey sense but it does happen(ahem Clarkson).

The question then becomes, does he ever regain his confidence under the microscope here in Toronto or does he need to be moved to return to form?

Small sample, but he's looked markedly better under Horachek so far.  Rielly too.

Markedly better as in a difference of not too bad instead of horrific?

He's yet to play a solid game IMO.

That's not remotely true.  He's had a number of solid games, a number of very good games, a number of awful games.  He's been pretty good since the coaching change.

The stats bear that out too.

Since coaching change:
CF%: 57.7%
SCF (scoring chance for)%: 59.6%
FF%: 54.8%

Before coaching change:

CF%: 44.8%
SCF%: 44.7%
FF%: 44.8%

I haven't looked any deeper into it, but from what I've seen he's looked good and the numbers say he's been much, much better since Horachek took over.

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General Rumours & Speculation / Re: Ryan O'Reilly
« on: Yesterday at 07:19:56 PM »
Gardiner is a head scratcher. You can see the talent. And it's not the high risk plays that really bug me. At times he seems to not be moving his feet and watching the play develop instead of anticipating. Perhaps it's a lack of hockey sense?

I think, right now, it's more a lack of confidence than anything else.

You could be 100% correct. Most players don't make the NHL without hockey sense but it does happen(ahem Clarkson).

The question then becomes, does he ever regain his confidence under the microscope here in Toronto or does he need to be moved to return to form?

Small sample, but he's looked markedly better under Horachek so far.  Rielly too.

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Franson should return a late 2nd or early 3rd but I wouldn't hold my breath on much more.

I think you're way off base on this one.

35 year old Eric freakin' Brewer returned a 3rd rounder this season already.  Johnny Boychuk got two 2nd rounders and a conditional 3rd.

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Don't worry, Nylander's already being asked about it.

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@markhmasters

Nylander on sweater tossing: "Of course, the fans care so much about the team & what's going on so it happens but I can't say much about it"

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General NHL News & Views / Re: 2014-2015 NHL Thread
« on: January 23, 2015, 09:10:44 PM »
This All-Star draft is actually entertaining.  Half the players are pretty much drunk.  Kessel just got traded from Team Toews to Team Foligno for Seguin.

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Leafs Media Rumours / Re: Franson at the deadline
« on: January 23, 2015, 02:28:20 PM »
Let's see here....

Phaneuf (is unfairly criticized but) good.
Franson (is suddenly now) good.
Rielly (will be) good.
Gardiner (has all the tools to be) good.
Polak (is tough as a boot, which is) good.

So, why is our defense (not) good?


I think a very little-talked about situation this season has been the fact that Roman Polak leads the Leafs in even-strength ice-time. That's kind of a weird position for our 5th best defenceman to be in.

Aside from that, a lot of people have admitted that Gardiner hasn't had a very strong season, especially pre-coaching change. I also think we have to realize that Rielly is still pretty young and his defensive game is still a work in progress.

Yeah even on that list, 2 of them are in the 'shown the tools to be' or 'will be' good, aka haven't been consistently good or aren't there yet.

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Leafs Media Rumours / Re: Franson at the deadline
« on: January 23, 2015, 01:31:09 PM »
Soon to be 28 year old having career season - move him when his value is highest.

Yup, and, while his skating has improved a little from last season (largely due to not dealing with suspected lingering injury issues), it's still not good and it's not going to get better as he gets older. It's been suggested by Dreger that he may be looking for a 7 year deal, and that's just not something the Leafs should even be contemplating.

To add to that further, Leafs need to be recouping picks that have either been traded in the past or were not acquired for assets let go for nothing like Grabovski, Kulemin, MacArthur, Raymond, etc.  Focus needs to be on stockpiling picks and prospects.

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