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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2016 Summer Housekeeping Thread
« on: Yesterday at 03:39:00 PM »
TLN with an article examining what Martin Marincin's next contract might look like:

http://theleafsnation.com/2016/7/29/what-will-martin-marincin-s-next-contract-be

Based on the comparables, it seems likely that he'll come in at around the $1mil mark.

As you'd see in the article though, there aren't really very many comparable players. Guys who score as little as Marincin does don't generally stay in the league very often. And they certainly don't generally get paid much in their contracts. I've brought this up before but I'd be perfectly fine trying to see him to a 4-year deal at something like $1.5mil. Even with the recent rise of analytical-friendly GMs in the league, guys like Marincin still aren't really getting paid what they're worth. It'd be smart to get him locked in now before that might change.

It also touches on the fact though that it's almost guaranteed that Marincin or Carrick will be exposed in the upcoming expansion draft. That'll be a bummer.

He's just signed.

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@reporterchris 

Martin Marincin's two-year deal with the #leafs carries a $1.25M AAV.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2016 Summer Housekeeping Thread
« on: Yesterday at 09:50:05 AM »

Dave Lozo ranked all thirty-one NHL teams' off-seasons:

https://sports.vice.com/ca/article/which-nhl-team-had-the-best-offseason

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16) Toronto Maple Leafs: You almost forgot Lou Lamoriello, who was incredibly overmatched as a GM in the salary cap era, was making decisions for the Leafs until this summer. Matt Martin isn't the criminal overpayment people are making it out to be but he serves no purpose there. The same can be said for Roman Polak, who will probably steal ice time from someone younger. Five years and $25 million for Frederik Andersen and his career .918 save percentage could go either way but seems an unnecessary expenditure for a team whose other offseason moves suggest they may tank for a second straight year. At least they gave Auston Matthews all the contract bonuses.

I think he nailed it.

You know, I've seen that thought mentioned here as well, but to me the Polak and Martin moves show that the Leafs don't want to tank another year. I would imagine that they believe those are two players who can help the Leafs win hockey games.

That doesn't really line up with what Shanahan's said though:

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A couple of years ago he was coming to us as a number five or six. Now hes coming to us as a bit more of a depth guy to support some of our young players, and he understood the role hes coming into.

So if he was coming in as a 5 or 6 a couple of years ago and now he's more of a depth guy then it sounds like he's at least a 6 or a 7 on the depth chart.  Not really someone I think they would be counting on to move the dial on the win column either way.

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: Buck
« on: July 28, 2016, 03:35:11 PM »
I'm pretty sure he takes some time off like this during every season.

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Then you'd have to cheer for Shane "Dirty but somehow never called out for it" Doan.

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Ok Blue Jays Talk / Re: MLB Trade Deadline
« on: July 26, 2016, 12:23:12 PM »
Bonus is that the Orioles were trying to include Ubaldo Jimenez in a deal for Upton Jr.  He  remains in the AL East!

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official Complaint Thread!
« on: July 25, 2016, 04:23:35 PM »

So a friend of mine who lives in Alberta just had a kid and I figured I'd send him some Leafs related baby items as a gift, so I head on over to the Leafs official site to go to their shop and pick some stuff out and go to make the payment and it turns out that the Maple Leafs official store is US based? And in addition to paying international shipping rates you have to pay what appears to be some sort of import duty on Leafs stuff?

The added expense doesn't bother me but that seems kind of tone deaf, doesn't it? Why wouldn't the Maple Leafs or NHL as a whole have a Canadian merchandise hub?

I went through and didn't see any kind of import duty, just the typical high Canadian shipping.  You could also try through the Real Sports apparel site, I would assume that would be Canadian.

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Seems fair. Schenn's PPG in the past 3 seasons is 0.64, while Kadri's is 0.59. Schenn does get to play with guys like Giroux and Simmonds and Voracek though.

I have Schenn's PPG as being 0.60 to Kadri's 0.59 - did you include playoffs?

Nah, I just pulled a WIGAL/broken calculator. Certainly gives Kadri a pretty big edge when you factor in line mates/circumstances. Schenn still has the edge in peak performance though, and it helps that it came in his most recent season. So I'd still classify his contract as pretty fair, but it just goes to show how good the Kadri deal is.

Never go full WIGWAL.

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Seems fair. Schenn's PPG in the past 3 seasons is 0.64, while Kadri's is 0.59. Schenn does get to play with guys like Giroux and Simmonds and Voracek though.

I have Schenn's PPG as being 0.60 to Kadri's 0.59 - did you include playoffs?

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Matthews or BUST
« on: July 22, 2016, 09:58:55 AM »
I mean, if the bonuses were a sticking point, and I'm not even saying that they are, do you really think that Brisson would have gone to the media and said "I had to fight tooth and nail to get this 1st overall pick the contract that he deserves because Lou is a dinosaur"?

Most of the posters here who firmly believe that this was completely fabricated are the ones saying "don't believe everything you read in the paper".

That's not what I am saying anyways.  I'm saying do not believe people who have no tangible connection to the negotiations and who do not, in their stories on the supposed negotiations, provide any evidence of having inside knowledge of the negotiations.  As I tried to make clear in my previous posts, which part of McGran's column has anything I should believe as true?  There's not even a "source with intimate knowledge of the negotiations" to at least give the illusion of him having sources involved.  Until provided something credible from another source I have no reason not to believe those involved in the negotiations.

But like I said, if Bob McKenzie was saying it?  I'd give it more weight.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Matthews or BUST
« on: July 22, 2016, 09:47:58 AM »
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I dont know why people were panicking, said Brisson, who explained that discussions about the contract hadnt even started until last week. We were in agreement right away.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/maple-leafs-sign-no-1-pick-auston-matthews-to-entry-level-deal/article31050579/

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Matthews or BUST
« on: July 22, 2016, 09:35:13 AM »
The point is, there was nothing unusual about the Matthews contract being signed 3 weeks after the draft, in fact it's pretty much in line with other first overall picks of the past decade.  The Toronto media wanted to make an issue out of nothing.

Right and I'm saying that not all of those situations are necessarily equal. Not all teams run rookie camps, some teams are super busy in free agency/the trade market and will back burner signing draft picks(especially in a case like Johnson's where he planned on playing College). Especially in 2005, the situations were just fundamentally different. It made all the sense in the world to prioritize figuring out a fairly complicated salary structure over signing a draft pick when there was no dispute about what the pick would eventually get.

What was reported on specifically was that there were negotiations that were slow, that's not the same thing as there not being negotiations because guys are at the cottage and signing a contract makes no tangible difference.

Again, if you want to believe that was entirely fabricated that's your call but I don't.

Well the evidence sure points to it being mostly if not completely fabricated.  The parties involved say it was quick and no issues.  The article in question has no comments or sources from anyone claiming to be involved in the contract discussions.  The team has been pretty tight-lipped about leaking things in the past couple of seasons with even huge trades not leaking out until just before happening or even by the Leafs own twitter accounts.  Kevin McGran ain't Bob McKenzie.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Matthews or BUST
« on: July 21, 2016, 01:41:06 PM »
"Sources" say it is max.

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@reporterchris

Auston Matthews signs entry-level deal with #leafs. Includes max bonuses and salary, per sources.

And CapFriendly/General Fanager have tweeted that they have confirmed that it is a max ELC.

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@CapFriendly 

#CapFriendly CONFIRMED:
Auston Matthews #Leafs
ELC max in all 3 yrs
$925,000 cap hit
+ Sched 'A' bonus $850,000
+ Sched 'B' bonus $2,000,000

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Matthews or BUST
« on: July 21, 2016, 01:29:12 PM »
They've signed him.

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@MapleLeafs 
The Maple Leafs have signed Auston Matthews to an entry-level contract. #TMLtalk

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=889946

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: July 21, 2016, 10:38:53 AM »
I really wonder if there is any controversy that can cling to him.  Things that would kill any other candidate in any other year are just ignored.

The guy said he wouldn't necessarily defend NATO countries.  He's just insane.

I have a cousin in Ohio who's started posting pro-Trump messages recently on FB and he genuinely believes that most of what Trump says is just for show but still thinks that he's the best thing for America. This is a direct quote: "he is using similar tactics as Hitler, but he is doing it for good not evil".

So, no, for people who already believe in this guy I don't think there's literally anything that would change that in the foreseeable future.

Some of the scenes of the crowd at the RNC are legitimately scary.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Donald
« on: July 21, 2016, 10:34:23 AM »
I really wonder if there is any controversy that can cling to him.  Things that would kill any other candidate in any other year are just ignored.

The guy said he wouldn't necessarily defend NATO countries.  He's just insane.

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