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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Tank Nation UNITE!!!
« on: Yesterday at 11:22:43 PM »
There's still a couple minutes left so knock on wood, but Oilers look like they're going to win again.

Eric Brewer!?  Hockey gods love a good joke.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: 2014-15 Prospects Thread
« on: March 28, 2015, 05:37:40 PM »
Would you take Crouse with Nashville's pick?

I would for sure.

Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: 2014-15 Prospects Thread
« on: March 28, 2015, 05:27:52 PM »
McKegg puts the Marlies up 1-0 on Hsmilton.  The Malies have a few games in hand on 7th and 8th place now.  The playoffs are looking bright and should only get better.

Quality jinxing here.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Tank Nation UNITE!!!
« on: March 28, 2015, 10:55:34 AM »
My god:

All Sports But Hockey / Re: 2015 Toronto Blue Jays thread
« on: March 28, 2015, 10:47:25 AM »
I mean, at worst it's really not a huge deal.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: So, about Phil Kessel...
« on: March 27, 2015, 05:30:51 PM »
Getting back to the article for just a second.  I've never played hockey on an organized level, so appreciate those who have played and are familiary with the variuos systems, to chime in.

I'm not sure how this writer explains the fact that this guy scored in the top 5 in scoring the past few years - with primarily the same line mates?  What has changed? The only thing that has changed is the change in the system, where the Leafs, purposefully, moved away from run and gun (1 and done) rushing style to a more possession based (which based on results, they aren't very good at).  So is he saying that Kessel is a rusher, and that this new system is flawed specifically for Kessel?  If so, then wasn't Carlyle right, and Horachek wrong (from a strictly results perspective)?

The writer then blames Kessel's slump based on the fact that the leafs have the puck this even true in the new system?  In fact, under carlyle, we had some of the worst possession numbers in the history of life, and yet he was scoring at a top 5 pace.  So that can't be it...can it?

The writer then blames linemates (or that "the collective group isn't capable")...but his linemates (TOR21 and TOR42), are for the most part...the same, aren't they?  How are they any less capable than last year?  Also, how does the writer explain's Kessel's last 15 games of the year from last year?

And a bit off topic, but why can't he just call him Kessel instead of TOR81?

The article was essentially saying that Kessel is tuned to a certain rhythm in the game (which appears to be blowing the zone early to catch defenders flatfooted). The new system, on top of making him think more (which slows him down), preaches a different approach that Kessel hasn't fully adjusted to. The timing is off and the puck isn't going where Kessel is used to it being.

He scored at a 42 goal pace under Claude Julien, not exactly known as a loosey-goosey coach when it comes to systems and responsibility.

All Sports But Hockey / Re: 2015 Toronto Blue Jays thread
« on: March 27, 2015, 05:20:07 PM »

Please tell me that was a joke.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Is Nonis pulling these strings?
« on: March 27, 2015, 03:50:02 PM »
The mandate up until recently was to put a playoff team on the least that's what we've been told.

Pretttttty successful.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: So, about Phil Kessel...
« on: March 27, 2015, 03:17:08 PM »
I've seen Kessel do that with other teams tons and tons of times.  But nice try.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: So, about Phil Kessel...
« on: March 27, 2015, 03:05:49 PM »
would have been interested to see that ... it is blacked out in the US.

Was there a serious fist fight?


Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Is Nonis pulling these strings?
« on: March 27, 2015, 12:21:44 PM »
That's ridiculous. I don't care what the media says of this team, they would not have any trouble hiring whoever they wanted if that person was available. And I believe that for any team in the NHL. There are only 30 jobs out there - the can't be THAT picky.

To me, I think the bigger issue that question raised is would an established GM want to come into a situation where he isn't picking his the rest of his management team. Dubas/Hunter/Pridham are Shanahan hires, they're not going anywhere. Would somebody want to come into a situation sandwiched between those 4? Maybe, maybe not, but I think it's a fair question to ask.

Sure - but that's not how it's presented in the original post... but yes, given that structure, that could complicate things... but then again, I think there's enough people in place that they can operate with or without Nonis. There's no need to go get a new GM.

Isn't that how it was presented?  Or at least as one of the reasons for the general question of the post.  This is from that article:

One thing a General Manager worth their salt won’t be able to look past? Not being able to bring in their team of executives.

That is not to say there would not be room for a potentially new General Manager to bring in a few of his own coworkers, but Brendan Shanahan has essentially hired his team. He brought in Brandon Pridham to be his capologist, Kyle Dubas to be his assistant General Manager team, an accompanying analytics team, and a director of player personnel who will also oversee scouting in Mark Hunter.

What experienced manager worth their salt is going to want to step into a situation where their front office team has been picked for them?

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: So, about Phil Kessel...
« on: March 27, 2015, 10:33:56 AM »

A ton of that went over my head but this bit stuck out to me:

For players lower on the depth chart, none of this really applies, they don't have to adjust their game in any way, but for an elite goal scorer - who relies on reading off others, this is one of the more fascinating studies of mental toughness and the number of variations that toughness is interpreted... depending on perspective and understanding.

This seems, and forgive me if I'm misreading this, to sort of connect to the Mike Brown joke I make in the MOTM thread. Leafs fans seem to fetishize a kind of hard work among their players. The hard work that looks like the hardest work or the kind that leaves the most bruises or whatever.

We see this all the time, when the team is good or bad. Tie Domi, thrower of bodychecks and knuckles, is a hero while Robert Reichel, almost certainly a better player in all aspects of the game, was "soft". We have a rosy view of Mats Sundin now but there were an awful lot of people who would call into the radio and say, seriously, that they thought Gary Roberts would be a better captain. How many times did people say Tomas Kaberle should be moved off of D because of his lack of physical play?

For a fan base that as far as these things go is pretty smart I think this is the collective blind spot. I understand it, when the Leafs won their cups it wasn't because they had the Hulls or Howes or Beliveau's or the best players of their day. They had gritty players and won with toughness.

So I understand the impulse and everything but boy does it manifest itself in some stupid ways.

I think it's a Canadian hockey fan in general type thing - I hear it all the time when I go to watch the Soo Greyhounds play (you know, the #1 ranked team in the country).  Every couple minutes someone from the crowd yells for a player to "hit him!"  Every player has to have that physical edge or they get some criticism - you can hear in the crowd the unease if they team circles back to reload a play rather than dump it in and be safe.  There's like a deep-rooted belief in this prototypical Canadian hockey player who scores goals by basically willing them into the net - with hard work, hitting, grinding, dumping and chasing.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: So, about Phil Kessel...
« on: March 27, 2015, 09:53:17 AM »
Thanks for that.

*Grabs popcorn*

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