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If it works it works but it makes the team super vulnerable if either guy gets hurt.

I haven't been able to watch very closely the last couple of games but I'm curious to see if this is entirely by design. I'm sure Babs wants to lean heavily on those 2 for minutes but that's a little extreme. Like are the Leafs clearing the puck a minute or so after kills and just leaving them on the ice? I know forwards are changing but it's a little easier for them. Are they staying on after a minute or so if our goalie covers the puck for a face-off? Do they look gassed when they're staying on or is their PK set-up enabling them to play pretty conservatively? It'll be something I hope to remember to watch out for on Saturday.

Another game where we basically only used 2 PKers on defence:

Hainsey 4:41
Zaitsev 4:16
Rielly 0:38
Gardiner 0:13
Borgman/Carrick 0:00

Went 3 for 3 though on the kill.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: Yesterday at 04:59:59 PM »
Is anyone else watching Mindhunter?

Here's a video about David Fincher's oeuvre:

Is it good? I like Jonathan Groff and I like Fincher but reviews haven't really made it sound amazing or anything.

(I think we did see Komarov down on the 4th line at one point last night, but it may have just been for one shift)

Yeah that was a post-PP shift to close out the 2nd period, I wouldn't really read into that much.

  4-2-0, 8 points | 5-1-0, 10 points

Projected Lines








David Booth
Evgeny Svechnikov
Danny DeKeyser

Dominic Moore
Josh Leivo
Calle Rosen

Game Notes

•Jimmy Howard (3-1-0, 1.97 GAA, .942 Sv%) will likely start for the Red Wings
•The Wings are off to a surprisingly good start going 4-2 so far. They currently hold the NHL record for wins against the Vegas Golden Knights franchise with '1'
•Detroit has the 5th best PK in the league early this season, which will be tested by the 5th best PP in Toronto
•Former Leaf David Booth played in 3 games for Detroit, and is one of just 3 forwards who haven't recored a point yet this season for the team. He averged 4:56 of ice-time in those games
•Defenceman Mike Green has been leading the way for Detroit so far this season, recording 1 goal and 8 assists in 6 games

•Curtis McElhinney will likely make his regular season debut for the Leafs
•Going to assume that the 4C and 6D carousel continues which means Fehr and Borgman will swap back in


•Danny DeKeyser - Lower Body - Questionable Wednesday
•Nathan Horton - Back - Out indefinitely
•Joffrey Lupul - Actually Injured - Out indefinitely

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Pfff. Typical Leafs fans all flocking to vote for the guy who scores the game winner...

HM Nylander

Not sure I've seen this before, Zaitsev and Hainsey were the only two defencemen to play on the PK tonight. They both had 4:57 of ice-time shorthanded. The 4 regular forward PKers all split their time evenly. Babcock really doesn't like using any of the other D there. Hainsey is averaging over 6 minutes on the PK a night and Zaitsev 5 and a half. Rielly's the next highest at just a shade under 2 while Borgman is at 1:35. Gardiner has seen spot duty only usually when one of those D takes a penalty and Carrick and Rosen haven't gotten a sniff of it. So when Borgman sits Babs really only has 3 defencemen he likes using there.

I mean it's been working well enough so far but that's really not something we can do all season long.

Well, yes but overall I thought the defense was pretty disciplined.  For ex, Ovie wasn't allowed to run amok, as Job One.

Yup. The Marleau-Kadri-Komarov-Gardiner-Zaitsev unit did a great job against him.

General NHL News & Views / Re: 2017-2018 NHL Thread
« on: October 17, 2017, 11:40:15 PM »

Crosby's last minute goal tonight is worth watching:

Any other player I'd say that was just a lucky bounce, but Crosby...

Oh wow how did Kadri miss that. Beauty move.


The only Leafs line under 50% CF% after 40min is JvR-Bozak-Brown

Time to put Martin with them.

Wow 2nd game in a row where Marner feeds JVR for an almost-empty net tap in and no dice.

Considering how much pressure we've had I'm surprised it's taken this long to get a PP. Make em pay!

Seems to me Hainsey is playing a good game tonight.

Advanced stats will probably prove me wrong ;D

71% CF

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