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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Leafs sign David Booth
« on: Today at 04:48:12 PM »
As much as I think Ashton hasn't been given a fair NHL shake, I don't think he absolutely deserves a spot either.   I'm ok if he is the 13th forward at this point.  You can maybe justify Orr as the 14th guy but personally if turf him.  He's unlikely to be claimed on waivers unless Burke wants him

Leafs have 14 forwards before Orr I'd say: http://www.capgeek.com/armchair-gm/roster/37803

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weird timing - why not do this before the draft and before UFA day.

Also - how does this guy make our team better?  Our players are still our players and our coach is still our coach...and newsflash...the players and the coach are still not that good.

Is something not worth doing if it doesn't instantly improve the team?  This is obviously a move done for the future of the franchise.

You mean like JFJ?

or do you mean like Bryan Burke?

No idea what this means.

It means we have been down this road of "new blood" and "change" before...and it has gotten us nowhere.

There is absolutely nothing to get excited about here as the core players from the last 3 years are still the core players we are stuck with for the forseeable future.

So why make any changes ever then is what you're saying?

No...not at all.  I'm all about getting better.  If he gets us better players then the collective defensive garbage we currently have, then i'm aboard...until then...I'm going to hold off on doing my dance of joy.

It's basically a show me what you got in ya...and then I'll make a judgement...because we have been through the new blood of JFJ and the old blood of Burke already.

You can say that about any hiring ever.  People are happy because the hiring seems to signal a different approach and willingness to break with tradition somewhat and break with the 'old boys club' mentality as well.  I think you can be happy with the move while also waiting to see how it eventually pans out.  Don't think it is mutually exclusive.

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weird timing - why not do this before the draft and before UFA day.

Also - how does this guy make our team better?  Our players are still our players and our coach is still our coach...and newsflash...the players and the coach are still not that good.

Is something not worth doing if it doesn't instantly improve the team?  This is obviously a move done for the future of the franchise.

You mean like JFJ?

or do you mean like Bryan Burke?

No idea what this means.

It means we have been down this road of "new blood" and "change" before...and it has gotten us nowhere.

There is absolutely nothing to get excited about here as the core players from the last 3 years are still the core players we are stuck with for the forseeable future.

So why make any changes ever then is what you're saying?

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weird timing - why not do this before the draft and before UFA day.

Also - how does this guy make our team better?  Our players are still our players and our coach is still our coach...and newsflash...the players and the coach are still not that good.

Is something not worth doing if it doesn't instantly improve the team?  This is obviously a move done for the future of the franchise.

You mean like JFJ?

or do you mean like Bryan Burke?

No idea what this means.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Leafs sign David Booth
« on: Today at 04:04:29 PM »
Holes for the kids?

Holes for Orr?

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weird timing - why not do this before the draft and before UFA day.

Also - how does this guy make our team better?  Our players are still our players and our coach is still our coach...and newsflash...the players and the coach are still not that good.

Is something not worth doing if it doesn't instantly improve the team?  This is obviously a move done for the future of the franchise.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Leafs sign David Booth
« on: Today at 03:48:11 PM »
Yeessss!  I love mediocre Vancouver Canucks!!!!!

Mediocre?  He's out of this world.

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@D_Booth7

If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I'm made for another world

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Leafs sign David Booth
« on: Today at 03:41:49 PM »
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@MapleLeafs 

#Leafs sign David Booth to a 1 year contract http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=726903

He's another who has been a consistently solid player by the possession metrics despite some difficult seasons offensively.

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That's what I'm afraid of.  You've got the aged king and his decrepit counsellor on the one hand, and now the young upandcoming prince on the other.  What could possibly go wrong? 

Wait a minute ... I think Shakespeare covered that.

I think Mirtle is on point about it:

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@mirtle 

Point today is not that Dubas is just some number cruncher. He's not. The point is the Leafs have opened their minds and that will help.

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Some Dubas from his TSN interview, via @Hope_Smoke:

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Dubas "I think on the ice gritty & character things are important. A guy who is competitive & those things is going to have the puck more"

Dubas "those things will all get lumped together in the analytics"

Dubas "Sheldon and I looked at it as our job was to develop players to make the NHL."

Dubas "our plan was to have our players create things. We looked at zone entries & controlling the puck"

Dubas "I think that whether a hockey player is 15 or 40 they want to make plays"

Dubas "analytics is in a primitive stage. There has been some great work from smart people who are beginning to get hired by NHL teams"

Dubas also said ultimately with the analytics & everything the game is all about finding out how to score more goals than the other team

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Couldn't care less what Craig Button has to say about anything other than prospects he scouts.

Anyways,

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@mirtle

Shanahan: "I'm just looking for talented people." Calls Dubas an extreme talent. "He's not tied to any old ideas."

Shanahan says he learned things from Dubas he didn't know.

Shanahan says Leafs analytical approach needed improving. Likes that Dubas is logical,   intelligent.

Dubas says analytics in hockey are very primitive right now. Excited at future possibilities.

Shanahan says there have been words and ideas people in the organization have been afraid of and Dubas can help change that.

Dubas will also be on TSN 1050 at 2:15.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Official Music Thread
« on: Today at 12:51:34 PM »
I love the SX line from Pioneer. I've got a 550 and a 750 (iirc the numbers).

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Official Music Thread
« on: Today at 12:26:20 PM »
Yeah and they're just bad. I see a lot of people buying them and they will just ruin the records and sound awful.

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http://iphone.tsn.ca/tsnpodcasts/DubasMCMay6.mp3

This is linked in one of my replies btw, in case anyone already clicked the previous link.

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Wow. I don't know much about Dubas - though, I like what I've read - but, getting rid of Loiselle and Poulin is a big step in the right direction.

Also, this signals a high change in philosophy:

simmonssteve: What Leafs liked about Kyle Dubas: He is rare combination of a hockey man and analytics proponent. He has been scout agent GM and he's young

The fact he's so young means (if all goes as planned) the Leafs are pretty set at the GM position for a long time.

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