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Brian Papineau 2,000th game commemorative stick for sale

netminder32

netminder32

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my auction on eBay.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Rare-Toronto-Maple-Leafs-Brian-Papineau-2-000th-game-CCM-hockey-hockey-stick-/322418321616?

Question or comments? Fire away.  ;)
Would really like to know your opinions/views on this item. What it's worth? It's history? How it got out into the general public?

We purchased it from the store manager at a local hockey shop. He said he initially received it in error in one of his shipments from CCM and it had been there collecting dust since... I found out as much as I could from him and we eventually convinced him to sell it to us. Initially my wife was just going to use it to play hockey but when we talked about it we decided it deserved to be kept pristine as memorabilia rather than just used, damaged and eventually discarded.
 
The equipment manager? Probably worth nothing, if it's a commemorative stick, maybe he wants it back.
 
Papineau has been the equipment manger over 2000 games?  I know he's been around a long time, how old is this guy?

Edit: apparently he's 51, started with Leafs when we was 23.  Man, what a dream job.
 
Dappleganger said:
Somewhere, Brian Papineau is wondering why the Leafs never celebrated his 2000th game.

Definitely a cool stick.
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LOL ^

I have so many theories about how this could have happened but I assume if the stick never showed up after it was ordered the Leafs probably came up with an alternative gift to commemorate the occasion.

What would be more interesting is if the stick did show up and was presented, how did it end up back in general circulation?  ???

We thought it was pretty cool too... ;)
 
Seems a little more likely that they made a bunch of them, gave them to the equipment staff and this is an extra rather than they custom ordered one and then forgot about it.

Although that said, is there any actual proof this was commissioned by the team?
 
Nik the Trik said:
Although that said, is there any actual proof this was commissioned by the team?
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No proof of anything really. No letter or authenticity. Nothing. The only thing I have to go on was what I was told by the manager of the hockey store.

The only reason I believe he might have been telling the truth is because he wasn't selling it. He was just telling me about how they ended up with it.

Even when I offered to buy it he was extremely reluctant to let it go. Eventually he agreed to sell it to us but it didn't even exist in their inventory. The cashier girl had to enter it in manually to sell it to us...

I haven't been able to find anything else about it on the internet. Nor any reference to any others in existence. I was really hoping someone on here might have some insider knowledge of it's past or history...  :D
 
So the store owner said it had been commissioned by the Leafs and then misplaced? Or just that it had come in one of his shipments by accident?

Because the idea that the Leafs went to the trouble of custom ordering a single stick and then didn't follow up on it seems a lot less likely than it just being a promotional thing or a mock-up or something.
 
netminder32 said:
Nik the Trik said:
Although that said, is there any actual proof this was commissioned by the team?
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No proof of anything really. No letter or authenticity. Nothing. The only thing I have to go on was what I was told by the manager of the hockey store.
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With that being said, you're making a lot of unverified claims in the ebay advertisement. ie: "this is your opportunity to own a 1 of 1 unique piece of Maple Leafs history. No one else will have this in their collection."

If you're really intrigued, I doubt reaching out to Papineau/the leafs PR would be an impossible task...
 
McGarnagle said:
With that being said, you're making a lot of unverified claims in the ebay advertisement. ie: "this is your opportunity to own a 1 of 1 unique piece of Maple Leafs history. No one else will have this in their collection."
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Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. From saying it's one of a kind to saying that it was commissioned by the team, there's a lot being said without any proof.

So when it's then said that the auction's reserve price is based on having an idea of what it's worth(when, again, you don't know how many there are or why it exists) seems a little dishonest.
 
Nik the Trik said:
So when it's then said that the auction's reserve price is based on having an idea of what it's worth(when, again, you don't know how many there are or why it exists) seems a little dishonest.
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Also, we're talking about a real niche item here. While Papineau is a recognizable name among Leaf fans, and important part of the organization, he's not a player or a head coach. He's not a particularly recognizable face, either. This isn't an item with wide appeal, it's something only the most hardcore of hardcore Leaf collectors would be actively interested in. There's not much of a market for it, and that really brings down the value.
 
well that was an adventure...  :o

I tried to implement the changes you suggested to the original auction but it wouldn't let me change the text, only add to it because a bid had been placed so I had to cancel the original listing and start a new one. (I updated the link above)

I set it at 3 days instead of 5 now so that if anyone from Canada is interested they can still take advantage of the eBay $15 off sports memorabilia auctions promotion.

http://www.ebay.ca/rpp/sports-mem/?

Hopefully this covers off the problems you had with my listing.  ;)

Sorry if I offended anyone with passing along the information the way it was presented to me. You are correct. Anyone could have commissioned CCM to make the stick. (we can agree that it is a CCM stick right?)  ;D They could have been mass produced. There could be one in every attic, garage and basement across Canada... But it's highly suspect that no one else seems to have seen one right? I think the wording now will be more to your satisfaction. (I hope) It just cost me a little over $10 to relist it because of the fees for the reserve auction and shortened 3 day listing. I really don't want to have to do it again...  :o
 
I don't care either way, but you have to understand why people would be suspect.  You registered on the forum back in 2011, but your post in this thread was only your 3rd post in 6 years.  It's human nature to be a little wary when someone comes along trying to sell something and you don't know the person doing the selling.
 
netminder32 said:
Hopefully this covers off the problems you had with my listing.  ;)

Sorry if I offended anyone with passing along the information the way it was presented to me. You are correct. Anyone could have commissioned CCM to make the stick. (we can agree that it is a CCM stick right?)  ;D They could have been mass produced. There could be one in every attic, garage and basement across Canada... But it's highly suspect that no one else seems to have seen one right?
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I'm not offended. You asked for questions and comments and I think most of them have been fair. They're ones I'd ask of anything similar.

It's highly suspect of what? I'd say that's a good piece of anecdotal evidence there aren't a lot of them out there(although as a collectible piece of memorabilia the difference between there only being 1 or 5 or 10 or 50 is a pretty big difference) but outside of that I don't know what to tell you.

But the issue isn't really with how many of them there are it's that A) like busta says a stick commemorating the team's equipment manager is a pretty niche piece regardless and B) to that extent the value, I'd think, would mainly derive from the extent to which it's actually associated with the club which, at this point, is anyone's guess.
 
Zee said:
I don't care either way, but you have to understand why people would be suspect.  You registered on the forum back in 2011, but your post in this thread was only your 3rd post in 6 years.  It's human nature to be a little wary when someone comes along trying to sell something and you don't know the person doing the selling.
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Long time lurker...  ;)

Actually I was registered way before 2011. I was more active on the old TMLfans forum. Drove up to Toronto and played a few hockey games with some of the members. Mostly commented on goalie related team activities. But as with all things, time moved on, things changed, I don't follow the comings and goings of the team like I used to. Don't really have much to say. Wouldn't really matter if I did. Everyone has an opinion, just be another lost voice in the crowd.  ;)

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Just thought when I ran across something unique and Leafs related, this would be the place to post it.
 
netminder32 said:
Zee said:
I don't care either way, but you have to understand why people would be suspect.  You registered on the forum back in 2011, but your post in this thread was only your 3rd post in 6 years.  It's human nature to be a little wary when someone comes along trying to sell something and you don't know the person doing the selling.
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Long time lurker...  ;)

Actually I was registered way before 2011. I was more active on the old TMLfans forum. Drove up to Toronto and played a few hockey games with some of the members. Mostly commented on goalie related team activities. But as with all things, time moved on, things changed, I don't follow the comings and goings of the team like I used to. Don't really have much to say. Wouldn't really matter if I did. Everyone has an opinion, just be another lost voice in the crowd.  ;)

TMLfans pick up game 2004
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Just thought when I ran across something unique and Leafs related, this would be the place to post it.
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Cool pics, I'm not much of a skater to be able to even play pickup.  Didn't realize you were around a long time ago, like I said before the other day I've never seen you post before so my alarm bells always go off in those instances where items are for sale.  It is a unique item, although not sure how much interest there is for it, you'd have to be a real hard core hockey collector to want something that isn't even player related.
 
netminder32 said:
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Man, I haven't seen that picture in a long time.  I was so young...

We've lost a few of those regulars to time.  Poddubny, Ronco, BMan, Warrior.  My biggest memory of that game is worrying that inexperienced skater Warrior would fall on top of me.

Good on you for showing up to watch, WIGWAL.
 
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