crazyperfectdevil
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http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/01/bruins-thomas-to-sit-out-season
wouldn't this be akin to retirement at this point?
wouldn't this be akin to retirement at this point?
Bruins' Thomas to sit out season? (Toronto Sun)
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Corn Flake
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He needs to go away.
Leafaholic99
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That sucks, he has been unreal the last couple of seasons, hopefully Rask is ready to take over as #1 is Thomas does sit out the season. How does that affect the Bruins cap? How can he come off the cap if he is under contract and sits :S
Boston Leaf
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seems liek a big baby to me.. Always playng the me against the world, everyone doubts me stuff. I know he had a nlong journey to get where he did but enough. You are (or at least were) well respected and thoguht off. You fly away now.. fly fly fly
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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I think this can all be traced back to the White House incident, as much as it was downplayed, I think it caused an irreparable fracture between Thomas, his teammates and the whole organisation.
maplesyrup
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Yeah, there's a financial crisis. We know, Timmy. We know. So let's all take a year off work to spend time with our families. Yeah, that'll solve everything. Good plan.
maplesyrup
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Sorry, I wanted to call him a "fruit loop" there too... Not sure why that popped in my head considering all the others that might be appropriate but there it is.
Thomas officially announces he's taking the year off on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/TimThomasOfficialPage/posts/311285465622556
https://www.facebook.com/TimThomasOfficialPage/posts/311285465622556
CarltonTheBear said:
Sounds like he's trying to salvage family/marital relationships.
I've seen some whining about his cap hit but I'm not sure that's a big deal.
He has a 35+ contract which counts against the cap even if he retired.
As of July 1, 2012, his NMC/NTC clauses go away such that he could be waived to the minors to get the Bruins cap relief (pending that still applies under the new CBA ..). They could also trade his contract to a team looking to hit the cap floor - that's another way out of the cap hit for the Bruins. So it doesn't look like they'll be stuck too badly and they might even get a respectable draft pick selling the $5 mil cap hit that will cost the receiving team nothing in terms of $.
But I was curious: can the Bruins suspend him for not fulfilling his contract and get cap relief on a 35+ contract? I'm sure they could suspend him. I'm not sure if they'd get the cap relief from a 35+ contract for the suspension. Anyone know for sure off hand?
One less starting goalie in this summer's starting goalie musical chairs.
cw said:
I've seen multiple media reports state that his cap hit would still count if he was suspended. Wouldn't be the first time the media was collectively wrong about the CBA though.
Also, you wrote that the Bruins could send him to the minors once his NMC expires to get cap relief, but wouldn't his cap hit still count because of the 35+ thing?
CarltonTheBear said:
Isn't that how Lamoriello got out of Mogilny's 35+ cap hit? I'm not absolutely sure anymore as it's been some time since I looked into it.
Vague recollection coming back : maybe that move only got Lou relief for the first year of Mogilny's deal ..
Deebo said:
He played in the AHL for a while, riding the buses, etc.
Maybe the following season, because the 35+ rule really kicks in beyond year one, he went on LTIR and they beat the second year of his 35+ deal that way.
So maybe waiving Thomas doesn't do them any good as Carlton pointed out.
bustaheims
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cw said:
Yeah. Mogilny was in the AHL in the first year of his 35+ deal, LTIR the second. Being that Thomas is well past the first year of his 35+ deal, all sending him to the AHL would save the Bruins is $100K off the cap
maplesyrup
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Can the Bruins let him sit this year, suspend him the next and then buy him out the following, effectively ending his NHL career? If not, to what extent could they make life most miserable for this guy?
Sarge said:
This year, 2012-13, is the last year of his deal. He's a UFA after that.
I get the sense from his facebook post that he's already pretty miserable with family/relationship issues. At least he isn't going through the motions to collect the final $3 mil left on his contract.
If he retired (which is probably what he's really doing because at 39, he'll have a heck of a time resuming his form after a year off), the Bruins would be stuck with his cap hit. To some extent, the soap opera of him taking a year off is him taking the media hit when in fact, he's probably retiring - which more people would understand if he could just come out and say it.
Family comes first so I don't hold his decision against him in a big way. He bounced around a lot throughout his career before he finally caught on in the NHL at age 31.
hockeyfan1
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According to reports, Thomas moved his family to Colorado during the regular season.
The Thomas situation...
...the Bruins must absorb his yearly cap hit every year of the contract regardless of whether he?s injured or retires before the deal expires. For that reason, the Bruins will have to take on his $5 million cap hit next season regardless of what Thomas decides.
...Thomas does not owe that year to the Bruins in the future unless they hold him to the commitment, which they certainly won?t be doing. That means if Thomas doesn?t play, the Bruins are charged $5 million against the cap next season and Thomas will become an unrestricted free agent for 2013-14.
The Bruins could also terminate the contract if Thomas isn?t there when the season begins and Thomas would become a UFA immediately, but the Bruins would still be on the hook for $5 million against the cap without having any chance to trade him.
The third option would be the Bruins would force Thomas to honor the final year of his deal if he decides to return after taking a year off, but they would be charged $5 million against the cap next season and $5 million in 2013-14. Not a likely scenario.
Thomas? no-trade clause runs out July 1, so the Bruins would be free to trade his rights to a team trying to get up to the salary cap floor, which will be $54.3 million if reports that the upper end of the cap will be $70.3 million next season are accurate.
That would make Thomas very attractive to a team trying to get up to the lower end of the cap, because it would be acquiring a $5 million cap hit without having to pay any of the salary. And if Thomas were to decide to change his mind and play, the team acquiring him would still be getting an elite goalie whose salary in real dollars is only $3 million. (That?s because Thomas received $17 million of the $20 million in actual salary in the first three years of his deal.)
Source: THN, Yahoo! Sports
The Thomas situation...
...the Bruins must absorb his yearly cap hit every year of the contract regardless of whether he?s injured or retires before the deal expires. For that reason, the Bruins will have to take on his $5 million cap hit next season regardless of what Thomas decides.
...Thomas does not owe that year to the Bruins in the future unless they hold him to the commitment, which they certainly won?t be doing. That means if Thomas doesn?t play, the Bruins are charged $5 million against the cap next season and Thomas will become an unrestricted free agent for 2013-14.
The Bruins could also terminate the contract if Thomas isn?t there when the season begins and Thomas would become a UFA immediately, but the Bruins would still be on the hook for $5 million against the cap without having any chance to trade him.
The third option would be the Bruins would force Thomas to honor the final year of his deal if he decides to return after taking a year off, but they would be charged $5 million against the cap next season and $5 million in 2013-14. Not a likely scenario.
Thomas? no-trade clause runs out July 1, so the Bruins would be free to trade his rights to a team trying to get up to the salary cap floor, which will be $54.3 million if reports that the upper end of the cap will be $70.3 million next season are accurate.
That would make Thomas very attractive to a team trying to get up to the lower end of the cap, because it would be acquiring a $5 million cap hit without having to pay any of the salary. And if Thomas were to decide to change his mind and play, the team acquiring him would still be getting an elite goalie whose salary in real dollars is only $3 million. (That?s because Thomas received $17 million of the $20 million in actual salary in the first three years of his deal.)
Source: THN, Yahoo! Sports
maplesyrup
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I was under the impression that he'd still owe the Bruins the year and visa versa should they suspend him. I just don't see how they can't be furious with this guy.. Just retire already then. Sheesh!