Canes Acquire Teravainen, Bickell

[CarltonTheBear]

RALEIGH, NC ? Ron Francis, Executive Vice President and General Manager of the National Hockey League?s Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that the team has acquired forwards Teuvo Teravainen (TAY-voh tair-uh-VIGH-nehn) and Bryan Bickell from the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for a 2016 second-round draft pick and a 2017 third-round draft pick.

http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=886117

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I really didn't think the Canes would end up packaging Teravainen here. I'd have probably made this trade. Especially if that 2nd rounder is Carolina's later one in the round.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Not bad at all even though you have to take Bickell.

 

[bustaheims]

Damn. I was hoping the Leafs would be able to get in on this, but, I guess what Carolina was willing to give up was more than the Leafs were willing to. Still hope Cowen gets moved to a team looking to shed salary.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Not bad at all even though you have to take Bickell.

He only has 1 year left on his deal at this point, it's really not the worst thing in the world. Very curious now to see what Detroit has to add to make Datsyuk's contract tradeable.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Still hope Cowen gets moved to a team looking to shed salary.

Could still make sense there. Chicago's just a tiny bit below $67mil right now and that's with just 7 forwards, 6 defencemen, and 2 goalies. They still need to re-sign Andrew Shaw and arguably upgrade the defence somehow. Plenty of work left for them.

edit: My bad, they're at about $62mil. I guess Capfriendly hadn't updated that part even though Bickell was off their charts. Thought that seemed off.

 

[bustaheims]

He only has 1 year left on his deal at this point, it's really not the worst thing in the world. Very curious now to see what Detroit has to add to make Datsyuk's contract tradeable.

The price to shed cap is pretty high this summer. Datsyuk's contract may just be come with a price tag so high isn't basically unmoveable.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Not bad at all even though you have to take Bickell.

He only has 1 year left on his deal at this point, it's really not the worst thing in the world. Very curious now to see what Detroit has to add to make Datsyuk's contract tradeable.

Wonder if Chicago also saw that they could potentially lose a good player to the Expansion Draft and this at least gets them something in return.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Wonder if Chicago also saw that they could potentially lose a good player to the Expansion Draft and this at least gets them something in return.

Maybe. I also wonder if they soured on him a little bit. He was supposed to be the steal of the 2012 draft, but he's turning 22 in September and only has 44 points in 115 career games. Part of that is of course because of usage sure, but at this point it might be safe to write off any 1st line potential he may have had.

 

[Crucialness Key]

Wonder if Chicago also saw that they could potentially lose a good player to the Expansion Draft and this at least gets them something in return.

Maybe. I also wonder if they soured on him a little bit. He was supposed to be the steal of the 2012 draft, but he's turning 22 in September and only has 44 points in 115 career games. Part of that is of course because of usage sure, but at this point it might be safe to write off any 1st line potential he may have had.

Especially now that they have Dick Panik!

 

[Deebo]

Capfriendly has the picks as being NYR's 2nd in 2016 (50th OA) and CHI's 2017 3rd (CAR had acquired this pick in a previous deal)

 

[TBLeafer]

Wonder if Chicago also saw that they could potentially lose a good player to the Expansion Draft and this at least gets them something in return.

Maybe. I also wonder if they soured on him a little bit. He was supposed to be the steal of the 2012 draft, but he's turning 22 in September and only has 44 points in 115 career games. Part of that is of course because of usage sure, but at this point it might be safe to write off any 1st line potential he may have had.

Especially now that they have Dick Panik!

Just signed him too...

 

[Crucialness Key]

Wonder if Chicago also saw that they could potentially lose a good player to the Expansion Draft and this at least gets them something in return.

Maybe. I also wonder if they soured on him a little bit. He was supposed to be the steal of the 2012 draft, but he's turning 22 in September and only has 44 points in 115 career games. Part of that is of course because of usage sure, but at this point it might be safe to write off any 1st line potential he may have had.

Especially now that they have Dick Panik!

Just signed him too...

TOTALLY CALLED IT okay I am starting a prognostication blog where I will break early scoops on every NHL deal forever starting right now, you can subscribe for a mere $75/week

 

[Kin]

Damn. I was hoping the Leafs would be able to get in on this, but, I guess what Carolina was willing to give up was more than the Leafs were willing to. Still hope Cowen gets moved to a team looking to shed salary.

Eh, isn't this sort of a situation where you'd rather have the picks to use on goalies/defensemen/dudes with size? You never want to say that the Leafs are set or anything but smallish wingers with offensive upside is about as strong a spot as they have.

 

[bustaheims]

Eh, isn't this sort of a situation where you'd rather have the picks to use on goalies/defensemen/dudes with size? You never want to say that the Leafs are set or anything but smallish wingers with offensive upside is about as strong a spot as they have.

I wasn't necessarily thinking this exact trade, but I was hoping maybe to get Bickell and a 2nd straight up for Cowen. Get another top 60 pick, try to turn Bickell into something useful enough to have value at the deadline, and lose nothing of value.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Eh, isn't this sort of a situation where you'd rather have the picks to use on goalies/defensemen/dudes with size? You never want to say that the Leafs are set or anything but smallish wingers with offensive upside is about as strong a spot as they have.

I wasn't necessarily thinking this exact trade, but I was hoping maybe to get Bickell and a 2nd straight up for Cowen. Get another top 60 pick, try to turn Bickell into something useful enough to have value at the deadline, and lose nothing of value.

While I agree that would have been nice, Chicago didn't have a 2nd round pick to send us. 

 

[bustaheims]

While I agree that would have been nice, Chicago didn't have a 2nd round pick to send us.

Not this year, no, but they do in 2017. As much as I'd prefer to add picks in this year's draft, part of creating the kind of pipeline the Leafs need to sustain a contending team is adding quality prospects that are spread out in throughout the stages of the development cycle.

 

[Kin]

Not this year, no, but they do in 2017. As much as I'd prefer to add picks in this year's draft, part of creating the kind of pipeline the Leafs need to sustain a contending team is adding quality prospects that are spread out in throughout the stages of the development cycle.

There's some measure of diminishing returns though. That would be the team's 4th second rounder next year.

 

[bustaheims]

There's some measure of diminishing returns though. That would be the team's 4th second rounder next year.

True, but that opens up opportunities to move up in the draft, and flexibility to move assets to pick up players teams may not be able to protect in that summer's expansion draft.

 

[Coco-puffs]

While I agree that would have been nice, Chicago didn't have a 2nd round pick to send us.

Not this year, no, but they do in 2017. As much as I'd prefer to add picks in this year's draft, part of creating the kind of pipeline the Leafs need to sustain a contending team is adding quality prospects that are spread out in throughout the stages of the development cycle.

Good point!