Do the Leafs need a high end Vet? And if so, who?

[slapshot]

The Habs replaced Subban with whom they deem a respected leader... i.e. Shea Webber. Do the Leafs need to do likewise? Find a way to add the vet that everyone will look up to...a Wendal or Dougie type of guy. And what would they give up to get such an asset and who would fit that role in a deal.

Or do they just let someone grow into that role? Is there anyone on the roster to among current vets that could fill that role short term? Or do we just wait for a young buck? Interesting thought. Currently there doesn't see to be that guy the team will lean on. More Babs than anyone else as The Rock in my opinion. Would be nice to have The Rock in the locker room.

 

[Kin]

I think he just goes by Dwayne Johnson these days.

 

[Spider]

Hopefully Kadri becomes that guy. 

 

[sneakyray]

I want to see them sign onw of shattenkirk or burns this offseason.

 

[Arn]

Tavares?

 

[KadriFan]

Drew Doughty would be nice....

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I want to see them sign onw of shattenkirk or burns this offseason.

Shattenkirk's somebody that I'm leaning a little more towards. Really depends on how reasonable/unreasonable his contract demands are.

 

[bustaheims]

I think he just goes by Dwayne Johnson these days.

I miss the days when he went by Rocky Maivia.

 

[sneakyray]

I want to see them sign onw of shattenkirk or burns this offseason.

Shattenkirk's somebody that I'm leaning a little more towards. Really depends on how reasonable/unreasonable his contract demands are.

the leafs have michalek, laich, greening, robidas, polak, hunwick.

plus any rfas that won't be resigned like cowen if hes not bought out and maybe holland.

thats like 20+million coming off the books this year.

with JVR, Bozak, komarov, lupul, gleason's buyout plus other bubble guys like leivo and marincin you have potentially another 20ish million coming off the books the following offseason.

thats pretty good and I think they can afford to offer one of burns or shattenkirk a pretty good deal this offseason and still have lots of room for tavares next year 8)

 

[Highlander]

Man I had a blond moment on this thread.  I wondered why we need a high end Vet when we have some many good Doctors.

 

[jonlleafs]

I want to see them sign onw of shattenkirk or burns this offseason.

Shattenkirk's somebody that I'm leaning a little more towards. Really depends on how reasonable/unreasonable his contract demands are.

the leafs have michalek, laich, greening, robidas, polak, hunwick.

plus any rfas that won't be resigned like cowen if hes not bought out and maybe holland.

thats like 20+million coming off the books this year.

with JVR, Bozak, komarov, lupul, gleason's buyout plus other bubble guys like leivo and marincin you have potentially another 20ish million coming off the books the following offseason.

thats pretty good and I think they can afford to offer one of burns or shattenkirk a pretty good deal this offseason and still have lots of room for tavares next year 8)

We have to be careful about high priced FAs.  Matthews, Nylander, and Marner will all command a lot when they are off their ELC.

 

[Tigger]

Yeah, Shattenkirk as a right shot would be a good fit if the contract wasn't ridiculous. The thing with hoping for Liljegren, also I believe a right shot, is that so many things have to go 'right' to get him, can't really plan around it. Pretty much the same for Kevin I guess.

The Leafs will likely have room for him, cap wise, but Timmy would be ideal there.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I think the Leafs are going to go hard after Shattenkirk in the summer and I think they're going to try and win it all next season.

I wonder if there is a trade to be made with the Canucks after the expansion draft. If they agree to retain 50% of the Sedins contracts, can we clear the decks a little bit of some of our B prospects and help them with their rebuild? The Sedin twins at $7 million combined could make-up an incredible depth line for a team looking to win.

 

[louisstamos]

I think the Leafs are going to go hard after Shattenkirk in the summer and I think they're going to try and win it all next season.

I wonder if there is a trade to be made with the Canucks after the expansion draft. If they agree to retain 50% of the Sedins contracts, can we clear the decks a little bit of some of our B prospects and help them with their rebuild? The Sedin twins at $7 million combined could make-up an incredible depth line for a team looking to win.

Granted, I'm a fan, but I have no interest in helping Vancouver speed up their rebuild.

Also don't think the Sedins would be a great fit here, and I also think that may be rushing things.  If the Leafs are in the mix at the deadline next season?  Then maybe...

 

[Kin]

I wonder if there is a trade to be made with the Canucks after the expansion draft. If they agree to retain 50% of the Sedins contracts, can we clear the decks a little bit of some of our B prospects and help them with their rebuild? The Sedin twins at $7 million combined could make-up an incredible depth line for a team looking to win.

I don't think the Canucks would agree to deals where they ate salary on the Sedins and didn't get a good return, no.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I wonder if there is a trade to be made with the Canucks after the expansion draft. If they agree to retain 50% of the Sedins contracts, can we clear the decks a little bit of some of our B prospects and help them with their rebuild? The Sedin twins at $7 million combined could make-up an incredible depth line for a team looking to win.

I don't think the Canucks would agree to deals where they ate salary on the Sedins and didn't get a good return, no.

I'm not suggesting offering them Clune, Campbell and Froese.

I think there will be some prospects on the Marlies and coming through the pipeline that are going to be victims of the numbers game fairly soon.

Babcock mentioned recently that he looks around the Leafs room and see's a lot of guys that plan on being on the team for the next ten years.

With that being said, I think they'll have a lot of trade chips and want to make some noise while still getting maximum value on the ELC's of their franchise level players.

 

[Tigger]

I think the Leafs are going to go hard after Shattenkirk in the summer and I think they're going to try and win it all next season.

I wonder if there is a trade to be made with the Canucks after the expansion draft. If they agree to retain 50% of the Sedins contracts, can we clear the decks a little bit of some of our B prospects and help them with their rebuild? The Sedin twins at $7 million combined could make-up an incredible depth line for a team looking to win.

I dunno about the Sedins but if the Leafs are going to try to go all in two years from now, I'll be very surprised. I could still see them pressing with Kevin's representation.

 

[Kin]

I'm not suggesting offering them Clune, Campbell and Froese.

I got what you meant by B level prospects. What I'm saying is that I think that if teams don't get a first round pick or something equivalent in a deal for players of this stature, even if they're rentals, they didn't do very well. In the context of the Canucks actually eating money, I think that sort of deal would not be seen as a very good one.

I think there will be some prospects on the Marlies and coming through the pipeline that are going to be victims of the numbers game fairly soon.

I think that's probably true but we may just disagree about the value of guys like that. I think of someone like Leipsic, for instance, who was a 3rd round pick who had some huge Junior scoring numbers and some pretty good AHL numbers for a 20 year old and fetched a couple months of Mike Santorelli.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I could definitely see Kapanen being a trade chip down the line. Him and a 2018 1st rounder next summer could be an attractive package maybe.

 

[Kin]

I could definitely see Kapanen being a trade chip down the line. Him and a 2018 1st rounder next summer could be an attractive package maybe.

Yeah, I still don't think that's the sort of combo that would result in a blockbuster type acquisition but I do think that's a decent starting point(the equivalent of 2 1st's) that at the very least begins a meaningful conversation about adding a significant piece.