Joffery Lupul is Toronto's 2012 Bill Masterton Trophy Nominee

[Fanatic]

Not sure who his competition would be, but it would be nice if he won. He has been the Leafs best player all year.

 

[Kin]

I just took a look at some other team's nominees. It included Mike Smith, Tomas Fleischmann, Johnny Boychuk, Clayton Stoner, Curtis Sanford and Dan Girardi.

The ones that stood out for me as being particularly interesting were Pacioretty, Jagr and Matt Cooke.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I hope Matt Cooke wins it, just to piss some people off.

 

[Erndog]

I just took a look at some other team's nominees. It included Mike Smith, Tomas Fleischmann, Johnny Boychuk, Clayton Stoner, Curtis Sanford and Dan Girardi.

The ones that stood out for me as being particularly interesting were Pacioretty, Jagr and Matt Cooke.

Obviously Pac and Fleishmann had some severe injuries/health issues but were their careers ever called into question?  I don't think Pac's was... I seem to remember hearing some scuttlebutt that Fleish may have been done.

Because Lupul's career was definitely hanging by a thread for a time.  I believe Lupes and his father even talked about how he's probably unlikely to ever play again.

 

[Kin]

Obviously Pac and Fleishmann had some severe injuries/health issues but were their careers ever called into question?  I don't think Pac's was... I seem to remember hearing some scuttlebutt that Fleish may have been done.

I don't think so but I don't know if the award should be "Who had the most severe injury the year before" and, you know, teams have to nominate someone.

 

[bustaheims]

Lupul and Pacioretty are the top 2 candidates for this one, I'd say. Fleishcmann's also having a pretty good year coming back from a very serious health condition. The rest strike me as guys where the team didn't have any really clear candidates.

 

[Erndog]

Obviously Pac and Fleishmann had some severe injuries/health issues but were their careers ever called into question?  I don't think Pac's was... I seem to remember hearing some scuttlebutt that Fleish may have been done.

I don't think so but I don't know if the award should be "Who had the most severe injury the year before" and, you know, teams have to nominate someone.

Straight from wiki (I know, I know, great source!)

The Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy is awarded annually to the National Hockey League player who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship, and dedication to ice hockey. The winner is selected by a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association after each team nominates one player in competition. It is often awarded to a player who has come back from career- or even life-threatening illness or injury.

I think Lupul would be head and shoulders above most of the nominess.

 

[lamajama]

Lupul and Pacioretty are the top 2 candidates for this one, I'd say. Fleishcmann's also having a pretty good year coming back from a very serious health condition. The rest strike me as guys where the team didn't have any really clear candidates.

Well IIRC, Jagr played for less millions this year than last year, no?

 

[Erndog]

Lupul and Pacioretty are the top 2 candidates for this one, I'd say. Fleishcmann's also having a pretty good year coming back from a very serious health condition. The rest strike me as guys where the team didn't have any really clear candidates.

Well IIRC, Jagr played for less millions this year than last year, no?

What does salary have to do with it?

Jagr chose to leave.  Completely on his own terms. He could have played in the NHL if he wanted too.

Would Radulov be a contender next season?

 

[bustaheims]

Obviously Pac and Fleishmann had some severe injuries/health issues but were their careers ever called into question?  I don't think Pac's was... I seem to remember hearing some scuttlebutt that Fleish may have been done.

Because Lupul's career was definitely hanging by a thread for a time.  I believe Lupes and his father even talked about how he's probably unlikely to ever play again.

There was with Pacioretty immediately after the hit - there were concerns that he may have serious damage to his spinal column/neck/etc - but, they were dismissed fairly quickly. However, the publicity over his injury and the fact that the hit lead to design changes in NHL rinks . . .

 

[bustaheims]

What does salary have to do with it?

Jagr chose to leave.  Completely on his own terms. He could have played in the NHL if he wanted too.

Would Radulov be a contender next season?

I think he's trying to make a joke at Jagr's expense.

 

[Erndog]

What does salary have to do with it?

Jagr chose to leave.  Completely on his own terms. He could have played in the NHL if he wanted too.

Would Radulov be a contender next season?

I think he's trying to make a joke at Jagr's expense.

My bads folks!

 

[Kin]

Straight from wiki (I know, I know, great source!)

The Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy is awarded annually to the National Hockey League player who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship, and dedication to ice hockey. The winner is selected by a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association after each team nominates one player in competition. It is often awarded to a player who has come back from career- or even life-threatening illness or injury.

I think Lupul would be head and shoulders above most of the nominess.

Well, yeah, but that last sentence there is a statement on how the award has evolved. The first sentence is the actual language of the award. Much in the same way that coach of the year has essentially become "Coach whose team did a lot better than the media thought before the year" and MVP has become "Best player on a team that made the playoffs" I don't think that what the award has become necessarily reflects what it should be.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Straight from wiki (I know, I know, great source!)

The Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy is awarded annually to the National Hockey League player who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship, and dedication to ice hockey. The winner is selected by a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association after each team nominates one player in competition. It is often awarded to a player who has come back from career- or even life-threatening illness or injury.

I think Lupul would be head and shoulders above most of the nominess.

Well, yeah, but that last sentence there is a statement on how the award has evolved. The first sentence is the actual language of the award. Much in the same way that coach of the year has essentially become "Coach whose team did a lot better than the media thought before the year" and MVP has become "Best player on a team that made the playoffs" I don't think that what the award has become necessarily reflects what it should be.

So basically you're wrong, but you feel that technically you're still right?

 

[Kin]

So basically you're wrong, but you feel that technically you're still right?

Sort of in the same sense that I'm right about what makes for a funny TV show, no matter how many times Two and a Half Men is nominated for an Emmy.

Edit: Also, wrong about what? I said "I don't know if that's what it should be about". Are you implying that I do know?

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Just messing with you, I think it's clear what you're saying and there is not much, if anything, that I disagree with.

 

[Kin]

Just messing with you, I think it's clear what you're saying and there is not much, if anything, that I disagree with.

Fair enough. I'm just test for missing the opportunity to say that being technically right is the best kind of right.

 

[bustaheims]

Just messing with you, I think it's clear what you're saying and there is not much, if anything, that I disagree with.

Fair enough. I'm just test for missing the opportunity to say that being technically right is the best kind of right.

You mean technically correct, I'm sure.

 

[Kin]

Just messing with you, I think it's clear what you're saying and there is not much, if anything, that I disagree with.

Fair enough. I'm just test for missing the opportunity to say that being technically right is the best kind of right.

You mean technically correct, I'm sure.

Hey, you make do with the set-ups you have.

 

[bustaheims]

Hey, you make do with the set-ups you have.

That's the kind of talk that gets you a bureaucratic demotion. A true bureaucrat is always technically correct.