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Leafs @ Blue Jackets - Oct. 25th, 7:00pm - LeafsTV, SN 590

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7-3-0, 14 points | 4-5-0, 8 points

Projected Lines


JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-McClement
Raymond-Bolland-Clarkson
McLaren-Smith-Orr

Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Rielly-Franson
Gardiner-Ranger

Bernier
Code:
         
Foligno-Anisimov-Gaborik
Jenner-Dubinsky-Atkinson
Comeau-Johansen-Umberger
Letestu-MacKenzie-Boll

Tyutin-Prout
Johnson-Savard
Murray-Wisniewski

Bobrovsky


Scratches

  Troy Bodie
Josh Leivo
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Ryan Craig
Nikita Nikitin


Line-up Notes

?James Reimer has been battling "the flu" for the past couple of days, and it's uncertain if he'll be ready to start
?Joffrey Lupul took a shot off the foot at practice Thursday and is considered day-to-day. Leivo has been recalled in case Lupul cannot play
?David Clarkson's suspension has ended and Frazer McLaren is cleared to return from injury so both will likely make their season debuts

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?Sergei Bobrovsky will likely start for Columbus                                                                                                                                                     

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Injuries

?Mark Fraser - Knee - Injured Reserve
    ?Nikolai Kulemin - Ankle - Injured Reserve
?James Reimer - Flu - Uncertain for Friday
?Joffrey Lupul - Foot - Uncertain for Friday
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?Cody Bass - Thumb - Injured Reserve
?Nathan Horton - Shoulder - Injured Reserve
?Matt Calvert - Abdominal - Injured Reserve

Statistical Leaders


Lupul - 6
Franson - 8
Kessel - 11

Phaneuf - +5
Orr - 26
Phaneuf - 32
Kadri/Bozak - 47.4%
Phaneuf - 24:39

Bernier - 5
Bernier - 2.12
Bernier - .936
 
G
A
P

+/-
PIM
Hits
FO%
TOI/G

W
GAA
SA%
 
4 - Gaborik
6 - Wisniewski
9 - Gaborik

+5 - Savard
15 - Dubinsky
28 - MacKenzie
54.4% - Johansen 
23:16 - Johnson

3 - Bobrovsky
2.49 - Bobrovsky
.921 - Bobrovsky

Season Overview

7
3
0
14

34
24
28.2%
86.8%

26.8
34.5
44.7%

3-1-0
7-3-0
Won 1
 

W
L
OT
P

GF
GA
PP%
PK%

S/G
SA/G
FO%

A | H
L10
Streak
 
4
5
0
8

23
23
21.2%
75.9%

31.3
32.6
52.2%

2-2-0
4-5-0
Won 2

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Looking forward to finally seeing Clarkson play. Can't wait until Kulemin is also back. The toughness of our team will improve significantly with those two back. Lupul back on the left side will be good, too; though playing on the right doesn't seem to have been too detrimental to his play so far.
 
Leafs eagerly awaiting Clarkson's return to the lineup...

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/maple-leafs-look-forward-to-david-clarksons-return-friday/
 
drummond said:
Hoping that overexcited Clarkson does not anything stupid to warrant another suspension

I'm not too worried he'll do anything stupid. You gotta think he's learned something just sitting and watching for 10 games. He just needs to play a simple game and not try to be 'Mr. Everything' out there. If he can do this, it should make for a nice easy transition into the lineup. If not, it may take a while.
 
Strangelove said:
That fourth line is such a waste of space.
if that forth line wasn't there, Kadri, Kessel and a few others would be getting knocked around all the time.  Stars for the most part need body guards, like it or not.


 
KadriFan said:
Strangelove said:
That fourth line is such a waste of space.
if that forth line wasn't there, Kadri, Kessel and a few others would be getting knocked around all the time.  Stars for the most part need body guards, like it or not.

Finally... Some one who knows hockey. GLG
 
KadriFan said:
Strangelove said:
That fourth line is such a waste of space.
if that forth line wasn't there, Kadri, Kessel and a few others would be getting knocked around all the time.  Stars for the most part need body guards, like it or not.

They don't play on the same line. That useless fourth line and it's 6 minutes per game does nothing to stop anyone from taking a swing at Kessel. Boston's a team full of tough guys and Ericksson still got concussed. The premise for your argument is lost in the 1980's.
 
KadriFan said:
Strangelove said:
That fourth line is such a waste of space.
if that forth line wasn't there, Kadri, Kessel and a few others would be getting knocked around all the time.  Stars for the most part need body guards, like it or not.

Yeah, we saw them protect John Scott from going after Kessel, right?

It doesn't even make sense.  Players still try to hit those players, they're just skilled enough that they tend to avoid the majority of big hits. 
 
Potvin29 said:
KadriFan said:
Strangelove said:
That fourth line is such a waste of space.
if that forth line wasn't there, Kadri, Kessel and a few others would be getting knocked around all the time.  Stars for the most part need body guards, like it or not.

Yeah, we saw them protect John Scott from going after Kessel, right?

It doesn't even make sense.  Players still try to hit those players, they're just skilled enough that they tend to avoid the majority of big hits.

Well there are a lot of hockey coaches, GMs, players and others who would disagree with you.
 
KadriFan said:
Potvin29 said:
KadriFan said:
Strangelove said:
That fourth line is such a waste of space.
if that forth line wasn't there, Kadri, Kessel and a few others would be getting knocked around all the time.  Stars for the most part need body guards, like it or not.

Yeah, we saw them protect John Scott from going after Kessel, right?

It doesn't even make sense.  Players still try to hit those players, they're just skilled enough that they tend to avoid the majority of big hits.

Well there are a lot of hockey coaches, GMs, players and others who would disagree with you.

Well you're the one who said without the 4th line those guys would get hit around a lot.  But what is there backing you up on that?  It's not a very convincing argument to say a lot of hockey coaches, GMs, players agree that is true - their perceptions can differ from reality just as easily as ours can if there's nothing to back it up.
 
Isn't the reason we have guys like Orr in the league in the first place, is to keep the "rats" in check? Otherwise, why even carry guys in the league that only fight?

I remember people being happy that Eager had to answer the bell for the cheap shot on Kaberle. The players seem to know that whether it's instant or the next time they play the team, they will have to answer the bell for their actions. If a team has nobody to do that, what's to stop the "rats" from taking advantage of a team on a regular basis? I do think there is some fear there for the guys that always seem to be gunning for players to get skilled players out of the game, like it or not; ie Kaleta, Cooke and the like.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
Isn't the reason we have guys like Orr in the league in the first place, is to keep the "rats" in check? Otherwise, why even carry guys in the league that only fight?

I remember people being happy that Eager had to answer the bell for the cheap shot on Kaberle. The players seem to know that whether it's instant or the next time they play the team, they will have to answer the bell for their actions. If a team has nobody to do that, what's to stop the "rats" from taking advantage of a team on a regular basis? I do think there is some fear there for the guys that always seem to be gunning for players to get skilled players out of the game, like it or not; ie Kaleta, Cooke and the like.

If that was the case, after all these years of teams carrying fighters, wouldn't there be no more 'rats'?  Do the stars on Chicago or Detroit get attacked by 'rats'?

Convince me!
 
Potvin29 said:
If that was the case, after all these years of teams carrying fighters, wouldn't there be no more 'rats'?  Do the stars on Chicago or Detroit get attacked by 'rats'?

Convince me!

I was more asking the question. I mean, there must be a reason, as coaches and GM's do go this route, some more than others. I used "rats" in quotations because there is at least one GM and coach I know of that finds value in having Orr on the team for that reason, not that that is my view necessarily.

Personally, I would rather have 3rd and 4th lines of Kulemin's, Clarkson's, McClement's and Bolland's vs Orr and McLaren's, so it would be hard for me to convince you. My issue with all this is the staged fights, I hate them and find they serve no purpose, but I am okay with a guy getting punched if he does take a liberty with one of my players. I know the issue needs to be fixed, but I don't know how they are going to do it.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Looks like for wingers, we have Kulemin and Kessel.  Glad to see Kulemin back.
Phaneuf is looking way out of position.  He's been so reliable this season to.
Not sure about which goalie it is, but it's worrisome that they're not facing the action.  (If the goalie is facing the wrong way and the puck goes in through their legs, is it still considered the 5 hole?) 
Now I can clearly see the player between Kulemin and Kessel has a #1 on their jersey number.  So it's gotta be one of:  Lupul, McClement, Raymond, or Ranger.  You would think it would be McClement between the two wingers, but the second number clearly has a line across the top, even though you can't see the rest.  McClement being 11, so it can't be him.  So is Carlyle icing three wingers?  Or maybe it's 4-on-4?  If it is, could it be Ranger?  Oh god.  And if it is 4-on-4, is Clarkson jumping on the ice again?  10 game suspension again!?!  dang.  And busting the ice is a definite no-no.  Remember Larry Robinson checking a guy into the boards and the boards gave away.  He got a delay-of-game penalty because of it.  Clarkson is already costing us a penalty.  If they measure his stick, it's illegal too.

 
 

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