Maple Leafs @ Coyotes - Feb. 16th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

[CarltonTheBear]

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36-18-3, 75 points | 25-27-5, 55 points

Projected Lines

Hyman-Tavares-Marner Marleau-Matthews-Kapanen Brown-Kadri-Nylander Lindholm-Gauthier-Ennis Rielly-Hainsey Muzzin-Zaitsev Gardiner-Dermott Andersen ​

Panik-Stepan-Hinostroza Galchenyuk-Cousins-Keller Crouse-Richardson-Archibald Garland-Weal-Fischer OEL-Hjalmarsson Chychrun-Goligoski Connauton-Oesterle Kuemper​

Scratches

Igor Ozhiganov Justin Holl Andreas Johnsson ​

Mario Kempe Ilya Lyubushkin ​

Game Notes

TOR
?Andersen (27-11-2, 2.57 GAA, .923 Sv%) will likely start for the Leafs
?Tyler Ennis will play in his first game since December 22nd, filling in for Johnsson who is day to day with a leg injury

ARI
?Kuemper (13-14-5, 2.77 GAA, .911 Sv%) will likely start for the Coyotes
?Despite a large number of injuries to key players, Arizona has been doing their best to stay competitive in the West. They're just 5 points behind Minny for the final card spot, plus they have a game in hand. Problem is there's 3 other teams between them too

Injuries

?Andreas Johnsson - Lower Body - Day to day​

?Mario Kempe - Upper Body - Questionable Saturday ?Nick Schmaltz - Lower Body - Injured Reserve ?Michael Grabner - Eye - Injured Reserve ?Antti Raanta - Lower Body - Injured Reserve ?Jason Demers - Knee - Injured Reserve ?Christian Dvorak - Upper Body - Injured Reserve​

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[ZBBM]

Why wouldn't Sparks get the start in this one? Saving him for red-hot St. Louis?

 

[Guilt Trip]

Why wouldn't Sparks get the start in this one? Saving him for red-hot St. Louis?

Haven't heard who the confirmed starter is but I don't see Sparks to be playing either game. No back to backs here and we need wins. Have to keep home ice for the first round.

 

[Highlander]

I was going to go to the game tonight, a big reason was to see Johnsson, but had decided against it. I will just watch it on the tube here. Glad I didn't invest in the tickets, place is a zoo to get to.

 

[Bates]

I was going to go to the game tonight, a big reason was to see Johnsson, but had decided against it. I will just watch it on the tube here. Glad I didn't invest in the tickets, place is a zoo to get to.

Where you going from? Arena is about as easy to get to as any in NHL on a Saturday.

 

[Kin]

How easy any arena is to get to is going to be different for every person but I think generally speaking the edge will go to downtown arenas well served by mass transit.

 

[Highlander]

I was going to go to the game tonight, a big reason was to see Johnsson, but had decided against it. I will just watch it on the tube here. Glad I didn't invest in the tickets, place is a zoo to get to.

Where you going from? Arena is about as easy to get to as any in NHL on a Saturday.

Carefree, ya its not that hard to get to but if you aren't in you car 10 minutes before the end of the game then you in it for the long run. If you jump out early then your on the highway in 3 minutes. Luckily the last 3 years the Leafs have been up by a couple of goals later in the game so jumping out was easy to do.

 

[ZBBM]

Why wouldn't Sparks get the start in this one? Saving him for red-hot St. Louis?

Haven't heard who the confirmed starter is but I don't see Sparks to be playing either game. No back to backs here and we need wins. Have to keep home ice for the first round.

If the Leafs feel that they can't beat Arizona with their backup then I wouldn't invest too much in thinking that they can get out of the 1st round home ice or not.  To me, this should be a simple choice to keep Andersen's workload reasonable.

 

[Highlander]

How easy any arena is to get to is going to be different for every person but I think generally speaking the edge will go to downtown arenas well served by mass transit.

Agreed with Nik, getting on a Subway at the park and getting out of town mass transit is really the best way.

I remember going to Argo games from Caledon when they were at the CNE and that drive was always an adverture, lots and lots of traffic on the ol Gardner Expressway.

 

[Bates]

How easy any arena is to get to is going to be different for every person but I think generally speaking the edge will go to downtown arenas well served by mass transit.

That isn't really that popular for most NHL arenas. For present discussion It's a rather easy 40 minute drive and park within minutes.

 

[Kin]

That isn't really that popular for most NHL arenas.

Off the top of my head it's true for most of the bigger cities. Toronto, Montreal, New York, LA, Washington, Chicago, Philly, Boston, Brooklyn, Vancouver...

 

[Kin]

If the Leafs feel that they can't beat Arizona with their backup then I wouldn't invest too much in thinking that they can get out of the 1st round home ice or not.  To me, this should be a simple choice to keep Andersen's workload reasonable.

My guess is the thinking is that Andersen gives them a better chance to win and that this doesn't represent an unreasonable workload.

 

[Bates]

That isn't really that popular for most NHL arenas.

Off the top of my head it's true for most of the bigger cities. Toronto, Montreal, New York, LA, Washington, Chicago, Philly, Boston, Brooklyn, Vancouver...

That's 1/3rd of League and I would really question LA and Vancouver.  I think more would drive than take transit in those Cities. Anyway driving 15 minutes to a train and taking a 30 minute train ride still isn't easier than driving to rink in AZ from Carefree. Parking is free, easy, and quick if you know the area.

 

[disco]

https://twitter.com/SundinsJofa/status/1096507822932545536

 

[Guilt Trip]

Why wouldn't Sparks get the start in this one? Saving him for red-hot St. Louis?

Haven't heard who the confirmed starter is but I don't see Sparks to be playing either game. No back to backs here and we need wins. Have to keep home ice for the first round.

If the Leafs feel that they can't beat Arizona with their backup then I wouldn't invest too much in thinking that they can get out of the 1st round home ice or not.  To me, this should be a simple choice to keep Andersen's workload reasonable.

His workload has been reasonable. He's started 40 of 57 so if he were to play all the remaining games, which he won't, it will come in at 65 starts. Leafs have 4 more back to backs so if they stick to the plan, Freddie will start 61 games this year. Last year he started 66. If the Leafs are secure in their spot where the games don't mean anything, I suspect Sparks to get an extra start here and there so that number could go down even more. I think most thought at the beginning of the year that 60 starts would be a good target to keep him fresh for the playoffs.

 

[Kin]

That's 1/3rd of League and I would really question LA and Vancouver.

Like I said, that's just off the top of my head. I don't think either of us can authoritatively say what the public transport situations are in St. Louis or Columbus but at a glance there are a bunch more arenas that are downtown.

And, again, "easier to get to" would be about encompassing the widest range of people and their needs. So people who wouldn't be driving at all would be included.

But kudos for this being one of the weirdest things you've insanely dug your heels in on.

 

[Bates]

That's 1/3rd of League and I would really question LA and Vancouver.

Like I said, that's just off the top of my head. I don't think either of us can authoritatively say what the public transport situations are in St. Louis or Columbus but at a glance there are a bunch more arenas that are downtown.

And, again, "easier to get to" would be about encompassing the widest range of people and their needs. So people who wouldn't be driving at all would be included.

But kudos for this being one of the weirdest things you've insanely dug your heels in on.

I think you are the one that came into a conversation to assert something that wasn't part if it?? I'm not dug in on anything but factually taking 45 minutes to get from home to inside arena for an NHL game is pretty decent time. I doubt it woukd be above League average.

 

[Kin]

I'm not dug in on anything but factually taking 45 minutes to get from home to inside arena for an NHL game is pretty decent time. I doubt it woukd be above League average.

Factually, there would be no league average as each person's travel time would be different. Basic logic and common sense says that the closer the arena is to the largest population center would result in the majority of people having the shortest times to the games. That is just basic civil planning 101.

 

[Bates]

I'm not dug in on anything but factually taking 45 minutes to get from home to inside arena for an NHL game is pretty decent time. I doubt it woukd be above League average.

Factually, there would be no league average as each person's travel time would be different. Basic logic and common sense says that the closer the arena is to the largest population center would result in the majority of people having the shortest times to the games. That is just basic civil planning 101.

Seeing as we are talking about AZ and a customer in Carefree, please give me an example of where this arena could be to make his commute easier or faster? Your post is obvious but does not reflect reality of most Cities having people with kids and money not living in core areas. There are always exceptions but NHL attendees Aren't exactly all inner City dwellers. 

 

[Kin]

Your post is obvious but does not reflect reality of most Cities having people with kids and money not living in core areas.

Yes it does. Again, this is just a basic concept of geography. Even if there are large population centres outside of the city a centralized location will make travel time easier for the most people. If you put a team to the East of a major population centre, it will make things longer for people from the West and vice-versa. Put it in the centre and it cuts time for the most people.

There are always exceptions but NHL attendees Aren't exactly all inner City dwellers.

Sure, because it's 1986 and most downtown areas of major cities are all really affordable, run down locations.