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Sandin back with the Marlies

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Rasmus Sandin left Tuesday's game at the IIHF World Junior Championship after he was slashed on the hand.
Sandin, who is playing for Sweden in the tournament, exited the match in the third period. X-rays did not reveal a fracture, which is good news. However, it's unclear at this time if Sandin will be available to play in the medal rounds.
 
Highlander said:
Rasmus Sandin left Tuesday's game at the IIHF World Junior Championship after he was slashed on the hand.
Sandin, who is playing for Sweden in the tournament, exited the match in the third period. X-rays did not reveal a fracture, which is good news. However, it's unclear at this time if Sandin will be available to play in the medal rounds.

Leafs should pull him as a precaution
 
Zee said:
Highlander said:
Rasmus Sandin left Tuesday's game at the IIHF World Junior Championship after he was slashed on the hand.
Sandin, who is playing for Sweden in the tournament, exited the match in the third period. X-rays did not reveal a fracture, which is good news. However, it's unclear at this time if Sandin will be available to play in the medal rounds.

Leafs should pull him as a precaution
They will have a say in it bunch I doubt they'll tank him unless he's hurt
 
Ok, looks like he's already practicing Keefe's system of coming down the boards to get involved in the offensive zone.  Looking forward to 2020 for him.
 
princedpw said:
Ok, looks like he's already practicing Keefe's system of coming down the boards to get involved in the offensive zone.  Looking forward to 2020 for him.

Haha he played for Keefe all of last season, so of course he's got it down pat.
 
herman said:
princedpw said:
Ok, looks like he's already practicing Keefe's system of coming down the boards to get involved in the offensive zone.  Looking forward to 2020 for him.

Haha he played for Keefe all of last season, so of course he's got it down pat.
Sandin being called best player on the Swedish squad, however the Czech' continued to slash him on his wrists...all cheap shot shit..they expect the same from the Russians in the next game. I know he has to finish out this series but from now on forget it for these competitions.  He is just to valuable for the Leafs to lose long term.
 
Yeah, the idea that sending him back to a junior tourney ? when he's been over a year in the pros and took a turn in the bigs ? is somehow going to really boost his development strikes me as old-school conventional thinking with no basis in fact.

The last thing we need are a bunch of teenagers taking cheap shots at a player whom we are counting on to shore up our weakest area.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Yeah, the idea that sending him back to a junior tourney ? when he's been over a year in the pros and took a turn in the bigs ? is somehow going to really boost his development strikes me as old-school conventional thinking with no basis in fact.

The last thing we need are a bunch of teenagers taking cheap shots at a player whom we are counting on to shore up our weakest area.

Gotta think that Sandin wasn't exactly forced into playing. These guys absolutely want to be there, and winning gold there has probably been a goal of his for a very long time. So it's hard for me to say how great the Leafs/Keefe are for doing things like starting Spezza/Brooks in their respective games that were important to them and at the same time say they should force Sandin to miss out on an opportunity of a lifetime like this because of a fear of injury (especially when he's just a likely to get hurt by some AHL goon).

edit: I would say I'd probably have a different tune if he was in the NHL at the time the decision needed to be made. But he wasn't, and as I've explained elsewhere I'm still not really convinced he'd have gotten the call-up to replace Muzzin even if he wasn't at the World Juniors. So I think it's an easy call to loan him away. I'd also add I've read that most Europeans have either a written or unwritten agreement that if they're in the AHL at the time of the tournament the NHL team is expected to make them available to it.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Yeah, the idea that sending him back to a junior tourney ? when he's been over a year in the pros and took a turn in the bigs ? is somehow going to really boost his development strikes me as old-school conventional thinking with no basis in fact.

The last thing we need are a bunch of teenagers taking cheap shots at a player whom we are counting on to shore up our weakest area.

Gotta think that Sandin wasn't exactly forced into playing. These guys absolutely want to be there, and winning gold there has probably been a goal of his for a very long time. So it's hard for me to say how great the Leafs/Keefe are for doing things like starting Spezza/Brooks in their respective games that were important to them and at the same time say they should force Sandin to miss out on an opportunity of a lifetime like this because of a fear of injury (especially when he's just a likely to get hurt by some AHL goon).

edit: I would say I'd probably have a different tune if he was in the NHL at the time the decision needed to be made. But he wasn't, and as I've explained elsewhere I'm still not really convinced he'd have gotten the call-up to replace Muzzin even if he wasn't at the World Juniors. So I think it's an easy call to loan him away. I'd also add I've read that most Europeans have either a written or unwritten agreement that if they're in the AHL at the time of the tournament the NHL team is expected to make them available to it.

Also, participating in events like this is valuable learning experience.

I've played (a different sport) at a very high level and playing on those sorts of high pressure, international, do-or-die situations is nothing like playing a generic league game at home. You can't imagine it unless you've experienced it, and it can be mentally overwhelming at first. Once you've been through it a few times it become much easier to settle back into the necessary mindset to let your training take over and focus on the task at hand. Golfers are a great example of this...they play a great Thursday and/or Friday round, but those "easy" no-brainer 5' putts suddenly aren't so easy on Sunday afternoon with the tournament on the line.

You see the Leafs doing this in a variety of ways...bringing guys up from the ECHL to be bench-warmers/black aces during Marlies playoff runs lets them experience a bit of that. Same with the way they're exposing some of the Marlies players to what life is like in the NHL. This is an except from an article that was in Athletic a couple days ago:
Jonas Siegel said:
Since Keefe was promoted from the Marlies in late November, the Leafs have been recalling a wide array of players from their AHL outpost, some for the first time and not always to play.

Brooks, for instance, got his first call-up in mid-December.

He was there on an emergency basis with Trevor Moore not quite ready to return from a shoulder injury and no extra forwards available otherwise for a game that night against Buffalo. He was promoted to the NHL two more times before finally playing a game for the Leafs last week at home against the Rangers. It was a reward for his progress with the Marlies, with whom Keefe said he?s made strides, particularly as a skater. It would also give him a first-hand look at how John Tavares and Auston Matthews practice, how Spezza takes care of his body after a game, how NHL players stretch and get ready to play. He would familiarize himself with Leafs players and staff, many of whom he knows well already from the Marlies.

...

?That?s part of what I?ve been trying to do here is to try to expose as many people as possible to our program,? Keefe said, referring to the Leafs. ?Sort of along the same lines of moving players around in the lineup, trying to get a feel for players that might just be needing an opportunity. And part of getting that opportunity is to be prepared for it when it comes, so even if they don?t get in the lineup, we think just having them around gives them a chance to be comfortable with the staff, with their teammates, with what we?re doing, with the NHL and what the NHL brings, so that when they do get on the ice they feel more comfortable.

?We?re trying to expose as many guys as we can to it as possible.?

Full article (paywall)

Any experiences you can give someone at this sort of level of pressure will help them cope in future when they're hopefully in a similar high pressure situation like a Stanley Cup game 7. There's nothing like it.
 
This is why I really love these forums....I learn a lot from everyone's contributions. Now after reading Hobbes and CTB comments I can see why Sandin should be at the tournament, lets just hope he comes home safe.
 
Word from Keefe is that Sandin will be heading to the Marlies and staying there to continue developing. I guess it could change with injuries or trades but for the time being, he won't be coming up to the big club.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Word from Keefe is that Sandin will be heading to the Marlies and staying there to continue developing. I guess it could change with injuries or trades but for the time being, he won't be coming up to the big club.

I can only imagine this will be short term.  After all-star break I think him and/or Lilgegren will be called up.  I hope Ceci is sent away somehow.
 
Zee said:
Guilt Trip said:
Word from Keefe is that Sandin will be heading to the Marlies and staying there to continue developing. I guess it could change with injuries or trades but for the time being, he won't be coming up to the big club.

I can only imagine this will be short term.  After all-star break I think him and/or Lilgegren will be called up.  I hope Ceci is sent away somehow.
We'll see. Sad thing though, CC isn't our worst "D" man but I think they should move him if they have a chance to and call up Liljegren.
 

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