2013-2014 NHL Thread
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maplesyrup
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Nik the Trik said:Peter D. said:Who went balder faster -- Sundin or Getzlaf?
Sundin didn't go bald, his hair simply retreated.
Nothing about Sundin ever retreated. His hair simply advanced in the other direction.
Bullfrog
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Kessel Run said:
2017 is probably the earliest. Any proposal about moving the team is very preliminary. There's no arena in place and significant development is required. The multiplex has a lot of support from the community (me especially), but they'll have to figure out the funding of the arena. And yes, this means provincial and probably federal funding will be required.
The population of the cities is very similar and there's a lot of corporate sponsorship opportunities here in Thunder Bay so I wouldn't be so quick to assume there will be a major drop off in revenue. Thunder Bay is a hockey mad city that really supports their teams. One of the big concerns is the impact on the Lakehead University Thunderwolves, but the thoughts are the two teams would share the arena.
I do agree, I don't think it saves the organization much in money. I don't think an extra $300 in flight fare is of huge concern for the occasional call-up and scouting. There'd be significant savings in convenience for sure as you could easily fly someone up that day.
Thunder Bay is in desperate need for a modern multiplex facility. There is some very vocal opposition to the development. It falls under two categories:
- concerns over the cost to taxpayers, especially in light of major expenses that have occurred lately, including the award-winning waterfront development, flood disaster, etc.
- concerns over parking/location. You see, if a native Thunder Bayer wants to go somewhere and they have to park more than a block away, it's a disaster. Strangely, that same person will go to Toronto and walk 15 blocks to get to an event. Some want the multiplex in a remote site in an industrial park because there will be tonnes of parking. It's ridiculous and makes zero sense from an urban design and economic point of view. Locating it downtown is the ONLY sensible solution to make it viable.
Arn
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Another outdoor game tonight. I'll probably tune in to the start of tonight's cos I didn't see the game on Sunday and see how Yankee Stadium looks. But I think they're kind of taking the pee a little bit with so many of these games and taking away from the spectacle and prestige of the game
crazyperfectdevil
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Arn said:
if something works..why not run it into the ground?
GhostofPotvin29
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Sharks have 42 shots against the Oilers after 2 periods. It is 1-0 Edmonton.
Scrivens.
Scrivens.
GhostofPotvin29
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Just your run of the mill 59 save shutout.
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Jalili
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Scrivens had the game of his life.
Apparently he set an NHL record.
Apparently he set an NHL record.
Chev-boyar-sky
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Redman said:
I've always liked the guy. Consistency will be his issue, especially on that Oilers team, but I think he has the tools to be a good #1 in this league.
I think we made the right deal in moving him for Bernier but it could be one of those trades that ends up looking pretty even in the end.
He's looking better than Reimer at this point in the season though...
OldTimeHockey
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
I don't think he looks better than Reimer at this point. He was playing on a very tight defensive team prior to this game. He had one great game. He also had some real big stinkers on the Kings as well with some mind boggling blunders. He essentially became the back up to an AHL goalie and then the 3rd stringer when Quick returned.
I'm not taking away from his great game...I just don't think he's been playing better than Reimer on a whole.
Stickytape
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Redman said:
He beat the previous record for most shots in a shutout game BY FIVE SHOTS.
GhostofPotvin29
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OldTimeHockey said:
That's an unfair characterization - became back up to an "AHL" goalie. Well, for one, if he became backup to the guy he's not an AHL goalie by virtue of being good enough to be starting and having success in the NHL.
Martin Jones: 12 GP, 1.72 GAA, .940 SV%, 3 SO
Ben Scrivens: 19 GP, 1.97 GAA, .931 SV%, 3 SO
There's not much separating them there. The Kings chose to go with the 24 year old with a $550,000.00 cap hit who has another year on his deal because they have Quick long-term anyways. Scrivens is 27 and an UFA after this season so made sense to get something for him.
But you make it sound like some AHL scrub supplanted him.
Chev-boyar-sky
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OldTimeHockey said:
I did say "at this point in the season".
Numbers don't lie. Yes he played on a better defensive team, but he's been the better goalie this year and has back-to-back wins (with the most recent an NHL record for saves in a shutout with 59 saves) playing goal for one of the worst teams in the league.
Reimer is the more established goalie with a better and longer track record but Scrivens has the potential to be (I'd argue he now is) the #1 in Edmonton. Reimer is atm a backup NHL goaltender.
OldTimeHockey
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
I think numbers do lie in this case. It's pretty tough to look at SV% and GAA when you're talking about small sample sizes and make a case that one goalie is playing better than the other. In this instance, I do think you have to watch the actual goalie's game. Scrivens has been fantastic for two starts.
I'm not knocking Scrivens previous games or his season for that matter. I just think it's short sighted to look at those 2 games and immediately anoint him as the #1 and as having played better than Reimer...That is all.
And Potvin, you know what I meant and stating that Scrivens became the 3rd stringer was not false.