2014-2015 Toronto Maple Leaf line-ups.

[GhostofPotvin29]

Judged on a goals per game basis, Colton Orr still scores at a lower rate than Daneyko.

Amazing how Orr can't even make the leap over that low bar.

Glad the Leafs have 2 players on this illustrious list of the past 2 seasons.

Link

 

[L K]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=534307

Gord Strate, a defenseman who played 61 games during parts of three seasons with Detroit in the late 1950s and never managed a point. No other player has skated in as many games without managing at least one point -- the runner-up is Frank "Frosty" Peters, who went 43 games without a point, all in 1930-31.

I think this is Orr's record now. He's gone 69 regular season games without a point, 76 if you include the playoffs.

How is he still in the NHL?

Edit: I think I misunderstood the record - it's most games played without recording a point at all in the NHL.

Yup. I'm pretty sure the streak for most games without a point is significantly longer, but, I'm having trouble finding an exact number. The streak for consecutive regular season games between goals sits at Ken Daneyko's impressive 255 game drought.

Judged on a goals per game basis, Colton Orr still scores at a lower rate than Daneyko.

Good glue guy in the dressing room.  Good defensively.  Knew his role.  Never expected to be overpaid for his contributions.  He was very good at what he did.  He's also a fantastic reason why junior hockey point production means very little (It's all about the context of the production).  He had 60 points in 69 games in his last full season of junior hockey and 34 points in 19 games in his last foray into junior hockey the next year.

My concern won't be abetted until we have an opening day roster with both Orr/McLaren either in the minors or clearly as the 13th forward.  You can't take away all of Randy's beloved toys and still have him "running" the show.  No dressing room would listen to him if he's just parroting words from above.  Management took away his assistants, they took away his system, they can't take away his lineup decisions.

 

[Seymore Pucks]

What about PP lines?  I would really like to see Clarkson on the 2nd unit in front of the net scoring dirty goals which is which a lot of his goals came when he scored 30 plus.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

What about PP lines?  I would really like to see Clarkson on the 2nd unit in front of the net scoring dirty goals which is which a lot of his goals came when he scored 30 plus.

I've wondered a bit lately how the team is going to handle Bozak's specialty team minutes. It doesn't really look like we're going to be replacing McClement externally, so Bozak will probably be looking at a pretty big bump in PK minutes. And considering that Bozak was already one of the highest played forwards in the league last season, I'm not sure he can take those extra minutes without dropping some elsewhere. Since Bozak struggled to produce on the powerplay last season (6th among forwards in points, 8 PP points in 58 games) I'd consider dropping him off the powerplay entirely. Kadri was very good on the powerplay last season despite getting 2nd unit minutes, and Kontiola should definitely be getting minutes on the PP as well. I think I'd run something like this:

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Gardiner-Phaneuf

Lupul-Kontiola-Clarkson/Frattin
Rielly-Franson

 

[Seymore Pucks]

What about PP lines?  I would really like to see Clarkson on the 2nd unit in front of the net scoring dirty goals which is which a lot of his goals came when he scored 30 plus.

I've wondered a bit lately how the team is going to handle Bozak's specialty team minutes. It doesn't really look like we're going to be replacing McClement externally, so Bozak will probably be looking at a pretty big bump in PK minutes. And considering that Bozak was already one of the highest played forwards in the league last season, I'm not sure he can take those extra minutes without dropping some elsewhere. Since Bozak struggled to produce on the powerplay last season (6th among forwards in points, 8 PP points in 58 games) I'd consider dropping him off the powerplay entirely. Kadri was very good on the powerplay last season despite getting 2nd unit minutes, and Kontiola should definitely be getting minutes on the PP as well. I think I'd run something like this:

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Gardiner-Phaneuf

Lupul-Kontiola-Clarkson/Frattin
Rielly-Franson

I like Kadri on the 1st unit as well except his face offs are not as good as Bozak. 

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

What about PP lines?  I would really like to see Clarkson on the 2nd unit in front of the net scoring dirty goals which is which a lot of his goals came when he scored 30 plus.

I've wondered a bit lately how the team is going to handle Bozak's specialty team minutes. It doesn't really look like we're going to be replacing McClement externally, so Bozak will probably be looking at a pretty big bump in PK minutes. And considering that Bozak was already one of the highest played forwards in the league last season, I'm not sure he can take those extra minutes without dropping some elsewhere. Since Bozak struggled to produce on the powerplay last season (6th among forwards in points, 8 PP points in 58 games) I'd consider dropping him off the powerplay entirely. Kadri was very good on the powerplay last season despite getting 2nd unit minutes, and Kontiola should definitely be getting minutes on the PP as well. I think I'd run something like this:

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Gardiner-Phaneuf

Lupul-Kontiola-Clarkson/Frattin
Rielly-Franson

I like Kadri on the 1st unit as well except his face offs are not as good as Bozak.

Last season they were 3% different in FO%, a difference of ~35 FO wins over 1000 draws.  Not really significant.

Maybe just a down year for Bozak, but that's the most recent season #'s.

 

[Seymore Pucks]

What about PP lines?  I would really like to see Clarkson on the 2nd unit in front of the net scoring dirty goals which is which a lot of his goals came when he scored 30 plus.

I've wondered a bit lately how the team is going to handle Bozak's specialty team minutes. It doesn't really look like we're going to be replacing McClement externally, so Bozak will probably be looking at a pretty big bump in PK minutes. And considering that Bozak was already one of the highest played forwards in the league last season, I'm not sure he can take those extra minutes without dropping some elsewhere. Since Bozak struggled to produce on the powerplay last season (6th among forwards in points, 8 PP points in 58 games) I'd consider dropping him off the powerplay entirely. Kadri was very good on the powerplay last season despite getting 2nd unit minutes, and Kontiola should definitely be getting minutes on the PP as well. I think I'd run something like this:

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Gardiner-Phaneuf

Lupul-Kontiola-Clarkson/Frattin
Rielly-Franson

I like Kadri on the 1st unit as well except his face offs are not as good as Bozak.

Last season they were 3% different in FO%, a difference of ~35 FO wins over 1000 draws.  Not really significant.

Maybe just a down year for Bozak, but that's the most recent season #'s.

Sweet just leave Bozak on the PK and move Kadri up to the 1st PP.  Holland is a pretty good passer so he could C the 2nd PP over the new signings.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

What about PP lines?  I would really like to see Clarkson on the 2nd unit in front of the net scoring dirty goals which is which a lot of his goals came when he scored 30 plus.

I've wondered a bit lately how the team is going to handle Bozak's specialty team minutes. It doesn't really look like we're going to be replacing McClement externally, so Bozak will probably be looking at a pretty big bump in PK minutes. And considering that Bozak was already one of the highest played forwards in the league last season, I'm not sure he can take those extra minutes without dropping some elsewhere. Since Bozak struggled to produce on the powerplay last season (6th among forwards in points, 8 PP points in 58 games) I'd consider dropping him off the powerplay entirely. Kadri was very good on the powerplay last season despite getting 2nd unit minutes, and Kontiola should definitely be getting minutes on the PP as well. I think I'd run something like this:

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Gardiner-Phaneuf

Lupul-Kontiola-Clarkson/Frattin
Rielly-Franson

I like Kadri on the 1st unit as well except his face offs are not as good as Bozak.

Last season they were 3% different in FO%, a difference of ~35 FO wins over 1000 draws.  Not really significant.

Maybe just a down year for Bozak, but that's the most recent season #'s.

Sweet just leave Bozak on the PK and move Kadri up to the 1st PP.  Holland is a pretty good passer so he could C the 2nd PP over the new signings.

If Cody comes back I suspect Raaaandy will want him on the top PP unit as per usual, despite the PP looking much more dangerous with at least one of the kids on each unit.

 

[Kin]

My concern won't be abetted until we have an opening day roster with both Orr/McLaren either in the minors or clearly as the 13th forward.  You can't take away all of Randy's beloved toys and still have him "running" the show.  No dressing room would listen to him if he's just parroting words from above.  Management took away his assistants, they took away his system, they can't take away his lineup decisions.

Well that was the point I was trying to make. After the season there were a lot of people who were 100% sure that Carlyle will get fired because they assumed that anyone would read the situation the same way they did. Now those people seem to be thinking that Carlyle will come back, they just won't let him make any decisions or implement any strategy.

As much as people may not like the decision to bring back Carlyle, the idea that Shanahan and Nonis would bring him back but only under those conditions is actually harder to explain. 

 

[Highlander]

Randy is going to be a puppet this year and will dance on the Shanaplan strings. You bet ya.
His new assistants are going to be Scotty Bowman and the ghost of Punch Imlach

 

[rdowdall]

Randy is going to be a puppet this year and will dance on the Shanaplan strings. You bet ya.
His new assistants are going to be Scotty Bowman and the ghost of Punch Imlach

OOOOOHHHH!!!!.....YOU SHOULD HAVE SIGNED DAVE BOOOOOLLLLAND!!!!.....DAVE BOOOOLLLAND.....OOOOOHHH!!!

(worst ghost impression ever)

 

[Mike1]

JVR Bozak Kessel
Lupul Santorelli Kadri
Komarov Kontiola Clarkson
Bodie Holland Frattin

Pretty bad forward core. The drop off after the top 5 is pretty staggering. This team had trouble with secondary scoring last year with a 20-goal season from Mason Raymond. I guess they are going to roll the dice on another cheap addition before training camp? Still, not really any improvement upfront.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

JVR Bozak Kessel
Lupul Santorelli Kadri
Komarov Kontiola Clarkson
Bodie Holland Frattin

Pretty bad forward core. The drop off after the top 5 is pretty staggering. This team had trouble with secondary scoring last year with a 20-goal season from Mason Raymond. I guess they are going to roll the dice on another cheap addition before training camp? Still, not really any improvement upfront.

Their depth scoring should actually probably be better than last season.

17 players suited up in a (mostly) bottom 6 role, putting up 91 points in 517 combined games.  I can't see them being worse than that this season, assuming health is okay, with the players likely to be in the bottom 6.

 

[Joe S.]

Randy is going to be a puppet this year and will dance on the Shanaplan strings. You bet ya.
His new assistants are going to be Scotty Bowman and the ghost of Punch Imlach

How about the ghost of stonewall Jackson?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Their depth scoring should actually probably be better than last season.

17 players suited up in a (mostly) bottom 6 role, putting up 91 points in 517 combined games.  I can't see them being worse than that this season, assuming health is okay, with the players likely to be in the bottom 6.

Kulemin, McClement, and Clarkson were our 7th, 8th, and 9th most used forwards last season at even-strength. Combined they scored 41 points. McClement and Clarkson in particular were bad with 11 and 10 points respectively. Losing Jay is addition by subtraction, at least at the offensive level. And Clarkson can't possibly be as bad as he was last season.

 

[Bender]

Their depth scoring should actually probably be better than last season.

17 players suited up in a (mostly) bottom 6 role, putting up 91 points in 517 combined games.  I can't see them being worse than that this season, assuming health is okay, with the players likely to be in the bottom 6.

Kulemin, McClement, and Clarkson were our 7th, 8th, and 9th most used forwards last season at even-strength. Combined they scored 41 points. McClement and Clarkson in particular were bad with 11 and 10 points respectively. Losing Jay is addition by subtraction, at least at the offensive level. And Clarkson can't possibly be as bad as he was last season.

I can't wait to quote this at the end of the year.

 

[freer]

Their depth scoring should actually probably be better than last season.

17 players suited up in a (mostly) bottom 6 role, putting up 91 points in 517 combined games.  I can't see them being worse than that this season, assuming health is okay, with the players likely to be in the bottom 6.

Kulemin, McClement, and Clarkson were our 7th, 8th, and 9th most used forwards last season at even-strength. Combined they scored 41 points. McClement and Clarkson in particular were bad with 11 and 10 points respectively. Losing Jay is addition by subtraction, at least at the offensive level. And Clarkson can't possibly be as bad as he was last season.

I can't wait to quote this at the end of the year.

Clarkson finished the season with 15 g and 35 pts.... Book it.

 

[Highlander]

Mike 1, I most heartily disagree, Leafs have stronger scoring power this year and Clarkson will be much better.  If not he will have to spend an hour a day in a face to face showdown with the Shanaplan, and we know the Shanaplan will not flitch first. EVER

 

[Mike1]

Mike 1, I most heartily disagree, Leafs have stronger scoring power this year and Clarkson will be much better.  If not he will have to spend an hour a day in a face to face showdown with the Shanaplan, and we know the Shanaplan will not flitch first. EVER

It would be hard for Clarkson to do worse than he did but I still think he will be hard pressed to get over 30 points considering he has only done it twice in his 8 NHL seasons.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Some positivity mixed with some realism, a pretty good article.

http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2014/07/15/10-midsummer-thoughts-on-the-maple-leafs/