Zee said:Is Subban projected to be a star #1?
He has starter potential, I don't know about "star #1". He is one of the top goalie prospects in the league though, but they're always the toughest ones to predict.
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Zee said:Is Subban projected to be a star #1?
bustaheims said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:I can't imagine how we could get one or the other but I sure would like to.
Probably a no on Rask. He'd cost pieces the Leafs have no interest in moving. Subban . . . maybe. If the Bruins were interested in JvR, Subban would be a piece the Leafs would probably ask for.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Re Rask: Would he really? I guess it depends on how high the Bruins are on Subban. For ex, if the Bruins wanted Kadri as part of a deal for Rask, I'd do that. He's only 28.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Re Rask: Would he really? I guess it depends on how high the Bruins are on Subban. For ex, if the Bruins wanted Kadri as part of a deal for Rask, I'd do that. He's only 28.
Frank E said:That price will likely mean draft picks or prospects though, and I'm not sure that the Leafs are in a position to start moving those kinds of things, even knowing their goaltending prospects aren't great.
CarltonTheBear said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Re Rask: Would he really? I guess it depends on how high the Bruins are on Subban. For ex, if the Bruins wanted Kadri as part of a deal for Rask, I'd do that. He's only 28.
Rask is a top-3 goalie in the league who's signed for a very fair rate for 4 more seasons after this one. Boston could do better than Kadri if they made him available.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:CarltonTheBear said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Re Rask: Would he really? I guess it depends on how high the Bruins are on Subban. For ex, if the Bruins wanted Kadri as part of a deal for Rask, I'd do that. He's only 28.
Rask is a top-3 goalie in the league who's signed for a very fair rate for 4 more seasons after this one. Boston could do better than Kadri if they made him available.
Basic point taken but I will say Rask is not one of the 3 best goalies in the league. Also, I never meant Kadri alone, Kadri as part of pack. But again, basic point taken.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Basic point taken but I will say Rask is not one of the 3 best goalies in the league.
Tigger said:JVR for Subban is also kinda wrong headed to me, unless something else significant came back with him.
Nik the Trik said:Frank E said:That price will likely mean draft picks or prospects though, and I'm not sure that the Leafs are in a position to start moving those kinds of things, even knowing their goaltending prospects aren't great.
Obviously you never want to make a bad value deal but I don't think you need to be in any particular position to make moves that diversify your prospect base. You're not going to ship any of the A+ prospects for someone like Subban but someone like Kapanen makes an awful lot of sense.
Frank E said:I see what you're saying, but I think the Leafs are still trying to determine what they've got with Kapanen and some of the new arrivals to their system.
bustaheims said:Frank E said:I see what you're saying, but I think the Leafs are still trying to determine what they've got with Kapanen and some of the new arrivals to their system.
That's true, but the same can be said of the Bruins and Subban . . . and the Bruins' situation in general. Right now, the "more credible" rumours around the Bruins really have to do more with older players like Chara, or secondary pieces like Marchand. The Rask/Subban stuff is really just people like us looking at potential future scenarios. We're likely looking at the offseason before Boston makes any type of move regarding their goaltending, and, by then, both teams will have a much better idea of what they have in guys like Kapanen, Subban, etc.
CarltonTheBear said:I really can't see the Bruins even considering a full-blown re-build. Not with Rask, Bergeron, and Krejci all 28-30 years old and signed to long-term deals.
I mean, they should because their team kind of blows now, I just can't see them doing it.
Frank E said:I think Krejci might be a problem there, like Phaneuf is here.
I don't think Rask or Bergeron would be too problematic, as long as they're not expecting a huge return.
CarltonTheBear said:I really can't see the Bruins even considering a full-blown re-build. Not with Rask, Bergeron, and Krejci all 28-30 years old and signed to long-term deals.
I mean, they should because their team kind of blows now, I just can't see them doing it.
Deebo said:For some reason, general fanager and nhlnumbers both have Chara's cap hit dropping to 4M in 2017-18. Anyone know what that's all about?