Zee said:
He has starter potential, I don't know about "star #1". He is one of the top goalie prospects in the league though, but they're always the toughest ones to predict.
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He has starter potential, I don't know about "star #1". He is one of the top goalie prospects in the league though, but they're always the toughest ones to predict.
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I have a hard time believing that Boston is going to be a good trade partner for the Leafs. I think Boston is going to do what the Leafs are doing, and so they'd both be seeking to unload established players for prospect/picks.
I could see the goalie situation there being interesting though...like if they decide that Rask is going to make it through a rebuild, Subban becomes movable for the right price. That price will likely mean draft picks or prospects though, and I'm not sure that the Leafs are in a position to start moving those kinds of things, even knowing their goaltending prospects aren't great.
I could see the goalie situation there being interesting though...like if they decide that Rask is going to make it through a rebuild, Subban becomes movable for the right price. That price will likely mean draft picks or prospects though, and I'm not sure that the Leafs are in a position to start moving those kinds of things, even knowing their goaltending prospects aren't great.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Rask is a top-3 goalie in the league who's signed for a very fair rate for 4 more seasons after this one. Boston could do better than Kadri if they made him available.
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
If the Bruins are moving Rask at this point, you have to figure it's part of a significant rebuilding effort. So, you'd have to think they'd be asking for pieces like Marner and Nylander, the Leafs 1st round picks, etc. They're not going to move him in a deal where Kadri is the centrepiece, because they'll get much better offers from other teams, and they're going to look for a premium to move him within the division. I mean, we're talking about a guy who could potentially win the Vezina every year.
Subban doesn't really factor into Rask's trade value at all. He doesn't really have any NHL experience to speak of (1 game), and, in a rebuilding situation, they wouldn't be moving Rask out because Subban supplanted him. It would be entirely because they expect to get solid future value in return.
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Frank E said:
Obviously you never want to make a bad value deal but I don't think you need to be in any particular position to make moves that diversify your prospect base. You're not going to ship any of the A+ prospects for someone like Subban but someone like Kapanen makes an awful lot of sense.
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2 more goals for Jagr tonight...
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Yeah, that's just all wrong for both teams, the Leafs shouldn't be trading for Rask or whatever equivalent now and the Bruins would have to know Subban was the man to replace him.
JVR for Subban is also kinda wrong headed to me, unless something else significant came back with him.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Well I guess you do love being wrong
bustaheims
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Tigger said:
Well, Subban would obviously be part of a larger package, but he is the caliber of prospect the Leafs should be targeting if they're going to move JvR.
bustaheims
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Frank E said:
That's true, but the same can be said of the Bruins and Subban . . . and the Bruins' situation in general. Right now, the "more credible" rumours around the Bruins really have to do more with older players like Chara, or secondary pieces like Marchand. The Rask/Subban stuff is really just people like us looking at potential future scenarios. We're likely looking at the offseason before Boston makes any type of move regarding their goaltending, and, by then, both teams will have a much better idea of what they have in guys like Kapanen, Subban, etc.
Frank E
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bustaheims said:
I think we're on the same page here.
Chara's deal, after this season, has 2 more years left on it at AAV $6.9mil, but at a real money cost of only $5mil in 16-17, and $4mil in 17-18.
I think that they'd wait until at least this season's deadline to make him more appealing to another team given his cap hit.
Marchand has only one more year after this season on his AAV deal of $4.5mil, but at a real money cost of $5mil next year.
I've heard the Edmonton rumours for Chara, but that's a big fat cap hit, and they'd have to send salary back.
I really can't see the Bruins even considering a full-blown re-build. Not with Rask, Bergeron, and Krejci all 28-30 years old and signed to long-term deals.
I mean, they should because their team kind of blows now, I just can't see them doing it.
I mean, they should because their team kind of blows now, I just can't see them doing it.
Frank E said:
I'm not saying that they wouldn't be able to trade them, I just can't see them making that decision. With those 3 on their roster I think their management will feel like that's enough of a core to try and build a playoff team around.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah, I don't see it either. Not for another season or two, at least. They'll replace the coach first, and look at secondary pieces and such. They may have to bite the bullet on Chara, and hope he can get/stay healthy and that he hasn't slowed down too much. He's not as easily a sell as he was a year or two ago.
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Deebo said:
nhlnumbers shows salary, not cap hit, for future seasons. Cap hits cannot change over the life of a contract.