2015 NHL Entry Draft

[Lynx]

The website I saw actually lists Marner as heavier than Strome, even though Strome has 3 inches on him.

Which one was that? I usually see Strome in the 185-190lbs range, Marner around 165-170lbs.

If it came down to the 2 of them (i.e. Leafs are 4th and the top 3 are gone)...who would you prefer?

My head says Marner, heart says Strome. Marner might have the higher offensive upside, but it seems like in this day and age every good team needs a big, talented centre. We might not get a chance to acquire/draft another guy like Strome, whereas we already have a guy like Marner in Nylander.

At the same time: Joe Pavelski, Claude Giroux, Tyler Johnson, Jiri Hudler, Pavel Datsyuk among others that aren't tall but are very effective.

That depends on if Marner projects as a C or W.

I see him more as a winger to be honest.  I feel like too many teams will see his size and figure he's better off on the wing.  That's again why I think some of the comparisons to Kane aren't bad.

I think the thing that really might affect this is what does Nylander project as? If he is likely going to be a winger than that top centreman becomes even more important. If there is any chance of him down the middle than that makes Marner as a winger easier.

Obviously there are no garuntees it seems like Marner has more upside but Strome being bigger, a centreman and a bit safer bet is the reason he is rated higher by most

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Someone posed this question to McKenzie on Twitter today, 'Marner or Strome?'  His answer below:

?@cameo60: @TSNBobMcKenzie, Marner or Strome?? Can't lose either way. Stroke bigger, Marner maybe more dynamic. Both top 5 guys, I'd think.

 

[AvroArrow]

If it came down to the 2 of them (i.e. Leafs are 4th and the top 3 are gone)...who would you prefer?

Personally, I'd prefer the larger, more likely to be a center player, but I would be more than happy with the consolation prize here.

 

[pmrules]

The website I saw actually lists Marner as heavier than Strome, even though Strome has 3 inches on him.

Which one was that? I usually see Strome in the 185-190lbs range, Marner around 165-170lbs.

If it came down to the 2 of them (i.e. Leafs are 4th and the top 3 are gone)...who would you prefer?

My head says Marner, heart says Strome. Marner might have the higher offensive upside, but it seems like in this day and age every good team needs a big, talented centre. We might not get a chance to acquire/draft another guy like Strome, whereas we already have a guy like Marner in Nylander.

This is the  website...don't think it's reliable...but I have no clue.

 

[Highlander]

Strome is my first choice. Marnier a good fall back. Of course like us all we would prefer McDavid or even Eischel. Don't want the D man

 

[CarltonTheBear]

This is the  website...don't think it's reliable...but I have no clue.

Yeah, their weights/heights definitely seem to be off. I haven't seen Strome at 170 lbs before. Lawson Crouse is often listed at 210-215 lbs, they have him at 189 lbs.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

This is the  website...don't think it's reliable...but I have no clue.

Yeah, their weights/heights definitely seem to be off. I haven't seen Strome at 170 lbs before. Lawson Crouse is often listed at 210-215 lbs, they have him at 189 lbs.

Yeah OHL site has Strome at 187 lbs and Marner at 164 lbs.

 

[pmrules]

This is the  website...don't think it's reliable...but I have no clue.

Yeah, their weights/heights definitely seem to be off. I haven't seen Strome at 170 lbs before. Lawson Crouse is often listed at 210-215 lbs, they have him at 189 lbs.

Yeah OHL site has Strome at 187 lbs and Marner at 164 lbs.

Thanks for the info...

 

[Bender]

If it came down to the 2 of them (i.e. Leafs are 4th and the top 3 are gone)...who would you prefer?

Personally, I'd prefer the larger, more likely to be a center player, but I would be more than happy with the consolation prize here.

I'd prefer the player with the most skill. Marner being more dynamic might bode well for him.

 

[KadriFan]

I'm hoping for Hanifin. 

 

[pmrules]

Cox just released his March rankings.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/top-30-nhl-draft-prospects-march/

He has the Top 3 followed by Strome/Crouse/Provorov/Marner in that order.

Is this Provorov kid worth a look for the Leafs?  Again...don't know much about him.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Cox just released his March rankings.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/top-30-nhl-draft-prospects-march/

He has the Top 3 followed by Strome/Crouse/Provorov/Marner in that order.

Is this Provorov kid worth a look for the Leafs?  Again...don't know much about him.

I was surprised to see they had Crouse at number 4 prior to the update.  The more I read about Marner, the more intrigued I am, although I would prefer Strome if both are available.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I think that's click bait on his part, pretty poor list.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I'd be delighted if they could snag Barzal or Zacha with a second 1st.

 

[Madferret]

I think this early in the process they have to employ the "best player available" approach: when they're 2 or 3 years into the rebuild they'll have a better idea of what position or player type needs more attention over the others. If you're really building from the ground up and this is stage 1 then take the bpa.

 

[Kaberle15]

I think this early in the process they have to employ the "best player available" approach: when they're 2 or 3 years into the rebuild they'll have a better idea of what position or player type needs more attention over the others. If you're really building from the ground up and this is stage 1 then take the bpa.

Coudn't agree more.

 

[Bullfrog]

I also agree, except how do you define best player available? The player with the highest potential or the player with a high potential and the greatest chance of meeting that potential?

I lean towards the first. Go for the highest potential period. All draft picks are risks. TMLs need some homeruns.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I also agree, except how do you define best player available? The player with the highest potential or the player with a high potential and the greatest chance of meeting that potential?

Or is it defined by the player with the best chance to earn you wins in the NHL? I'm a firm believer that the centre ice position is the most important in hockey. Unless there's a clear-cut edge between the two players, I break the tie by going with the centre.

 

[Kin]

I also agree, except how do you define best player available? The player with the highest potential or the player with a high potential and the greatest chance of meeting that potential?

I lean towards the first. Go for the highest potential period. All draft picks are risks. TMLs need some homeruns.

I don't necessarily disagree but I do think it's important to keep in mind that the things that make for a really complete player are often overlooked when we talk about potential. If you look at the really great two-way players in the game I think you find that they tend to get drafted a lot lower than you might otherwise think because people are focused so solely on offensive talent as being a player's ceiling.

 

[Madferret]

I also agree, except how do you define best player available? The player with the highest potential or the player with a high potential and the greatest chance of meeting that potential?

I lean towards the first. Go for the highest potential period. All draft picks are risks. TMLs need some homeruns.

I guess that's where you put your faith and trust with your scouting department. I like to think there's more of a science to it then GM _______ bringing up BMac's or Scott Cullen's latest draft power ranking columns