2015 NHL Entry Draft

[pmrules]

A good read on Daniel Sprong, likely my first choice for the Nashville pick (assuming someone else doesn't drop a ton):

http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/daniel-sprong-potential-2015-nhl-draft-steal/

Other than the obvious drop in the pick, what are the impacts of Nashville not winning their division? 

 

[OldTimeHockey]

A good read on Daniel Sprong, likely my first choice for the Nashville pick (assuming someone else doesn't drop a ton):

http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/daniel-sprong-potential-2015-nhl-draft-steal/

Other than the obvious drop in the pick, what are the impacts of Nashville not winning their division?

Does the pick drop due to them not winning their division or does the pick only drop when they are eliminated from the playoffs?

 

[pmrules]

A good read on Daniel Sprong, likely my first choice for the Nashville pick (assuming someone else doesn't drop a ton):

http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/daniel-sprong-potential-2015-nhl-draft-steal/

Other than the obvious drop in the pick, what are the impacts of Nashville not winning their division?

Does the pick drop due to them not winning their division or does the pick only drop when they are eliminated from the playoffs?

I think it is those division winners who are eliminated in the first two rounds automatically get the worst picks in the 15-26 range (those 12 teams eliminated in the first 2 rounds) regardless of record. Then it goes by record...i think.  So instead of being possibly in the 23-26 range if they win their division, it could go slightly below that - which is good as a Leaf fan.

Not only that, but Nashville would have to play either Chicago or St. Louis in the first round if they don't win their division.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I think it is those division winners who are eliminated in the first two rounds automatically get the worst picks in the 15-26 range (those 12 teams eliminated in the first 2 rounds) regardless of record. Then it goes by record...i think.  So instead of being possibly in the 23-26 range if they win their division, it could go slightly below that - which is good as a Leaf fan.

Not only that, but Nashville would have to play either Chicago or St. Louis in the first round if they don't win their division.

This is what the draft order looks like:

30  SC winner
29  SC runner-up
28-27 Conference finals losers
26-23 Division winners
22-15 Playoff teams ranked by reverse points
14-1 Non-playoff ranked by reverse points + lottery result

So best-case scenario would be Nashville not winning their division and then being eliminated in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs.

It would also help if all the division-winners were eliminated in the first 2 rounds as well, so their draft slots don't overlap with the 27-30 picks. That seems unlikely but it actually happened last year so fingers crossed!

 

[CarltonTheBear]

For those keeping track, Craig Button now has Hanifin ranked 12th.

 

[L K]

For those keeping track, Craig Button now has Hanifin ranked 12th.

Ha!  You should check out my blog.  I rank McDavid 8th.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

For those keeping track, Craig Button now has Hanifin ranked 12th.

Hey, maybe we'll get him with the Nashville pick!

 

[LuncheonMeat]

For those keeping track, Craig Button now has Hanifin ranked 12th.

And is this his yearly 'controversial' ranking?  And does he put forth his reasoning for this drop in ranking?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

For those keeping track, Craig Button now has Hanifin ranked 12th.

And is this his yearly 'controversial' ranking?  And does he put forth his reasoning for this drop in ranking?

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-suspenseful-race-for-no-3-1.249965

That's right, the title of his post is "Suspenseful race for No. 3" and it doesn't even mention that Hanifin might go there. He had him ranked 8th in March. Wonder where he'll end up in his final rankings.

 

[L K]

For those keeping track, Craig Button now has Hanifin ranked 12th.

And is this his yearly 'controversial' ranking?  And does he put forth his reasoning for this drop in ranking?

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-suspenseful-race-for-no-3-1.249965

That's right, the title of his post is "Suspenseful race for No. 3" and it doesn't even mention that Hanifin might go there. He had him ranked 8th in March. Wonder where he'll end up in his final rankings.

It's not just that he has him ranked 12th.  He has him ranked as the FOURTH defenseman.

 

[Al14]

For those keeping track, Craig Button now has Hanifin ranked 12th.

And is this his yearly 'controversial' ranking?  And does he put forth his reasoning for this drop in ranking?

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-suspenseful-race-for-no-3-1.249965

That's right, the title of his post is "Suspenseful race for No. 3" and it doesn't even mention that Hanifin might go there. He had him ranked 8th in March. Wonder where he'll end up in his final rankings.

It's not just that he has him ranked 12th.  He has him ranked as the FOURTH defenseman.

That's about right, not good enough to be a bonifide number 1.  If we select him, he'll end up being mediocre, but, paid like a number 1!  :'(

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I shared a post on Daniel Sprong the other day, saying that he's my top choice for Nashville's pick. My 2nd choice seems to be rising up the ranks a little too much for my liking, and it looks like he might not be around. Somewhat thankfully, he's a Russian so that might scare some teams off:

http://theleafsnation.com/2015/4/8/how-good-is-evgeny-svechnikov

6'2'', 200 lbs Russian with elite skill. Playing in North America already. Played a bit of centre. Likens his game to Malkin. Yes please.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

I shared a post on Daniel Sprong the other day, saying that he's my top choice for Nashville's pick. My 2nd choice seems to be rising up the ranks a little too much for my liking, and it looks like he might not be around. Somewhat thankfully, he's a Russian so that might scare some teams off:

http://theleafsnation.com/2015/4/8/how-good-is-evgeny-svechnikov

6'2'', 200 lbs Russian with elite skill. Playing in North America already. Played a bit of centre. Likens his game to Malkin. Yes please.

I read that article the other day and he's pretty intriguing.  Hopefully Nashville will cooperate and it will be a low 20's pick. 

I was looking for other draft rankings - Mckenzie and Pronman specifically - but couldn't find recent numbers for either.  Anyone? 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I was looking for other draft rankings - Mckenzie and Pronman specifically - but couldn't find recent numbers for either.  Anyone? 

This link gives you a bunch of top-30's in one glance: http://www.mynhldraft.com/2015-draft/prospect-rankings/.

McKenzie's isn't listed, but his final rankings haven't been done yet. This is from mid-season: http://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-the-unanimous-no-1-in-tsn-s-mid-season-ranking-1.193058.

Seems like there's a good chance Sprong and Svechnikov could both be gone by the time Nashville's pick comes along. Too bad.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

I was looking for other draft rankings - Mckenzie and Pronman specifically - but couldn't find recent numbers for either.  Anyone? 

This link gives you a bunch of top-30's in one glance: http://www.mynhldraft.com/2015-draft/prospect-rankings/.

McKenzie's isn't listed, but his final rankings haven't been done yet. This is from mid-season: http://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-the-unanimous-no-1-in-tsn-s-mid-season-ranking-1.193058.

Seems like there's a good chance Sprong and Svechnikov could both be gone by the time Nashville's pick comes along. Too bad.

I wonder if the Leafs are able to move Kessel and/or Phaneuf prior to the draft, if they could acquire the pick(s) to  get one of these guys?  I really think there are going to be some great players all through the first round, so it may come down to who's making the decisions, and how good those decisions are in terms of player selection.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I wonder if the Leafs are able to move Kessel and/or Phaneuf prior to the draft, if they could acquire the pick(s) to  get one of these guys?  I really think there are going to be some great players all through the first round, so it may come down to who's making the decisions, and how good those decisions are in terms of player selection.

An extra 1st somewhere in the teens would be fantastic. This really is a great draft. So glad we aren't going to have to suffer through another Biggs/Gauthier pick with our late 1st. A lot of guys projected to go in the 20s have a ton of offensive upside. If we could grab Strome/Marner with our 1st, Kylington/Konecny with an additional 1st, and Sprong/Svechnikov with Nashville's pick I'd pretty much pee myself in excitement.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I wonder if the Leafs are able to move Kessel and/or Phaneuf prior to the draft, if they could acquire the pick(s) to  get one of these guys?  I really think there are going to be some great players all through the first round, so it may come down to who's making the decisions, and how good those decisions are in terms of player selection.

An extra 1st somewhere in the teens would be fantastic. This really is a great draft. So glad we aren't going to have to suffer through another Biggs/Gauthier pick with our late 1st. A lot of guys projected to go in the 20s have a ton of offensive upside. If we could grab Strome/Marner with our 1st, Kylington/Konecny with an additional 1st, and Sprong/Svechnikov with Nashville's pick I'd pretty much pee myself in excitement.

When you've got picks like McDavid/Eichel I always imagine a normal draft year being one without either of those two and so sort of mentally knock each ranking up a couple spots to where they might typically be ranked if not for special talents like those two.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

I wonder if the Leafs are able to move Kessel and/or Phaneuf prior to the draft, if they could acquire the pick(s) to  get one of these guys?  I really think there are going to be some great players all through the first round, so it may come down to who's making the decisions, and how good those decisions are in terms of player selection.

An extra 1st somewhere in the teens would be fantastic. This really is a great draft. So glad we aren't going to have to suffer through another Biggs/Gauthier pick with our late 1st. A lot of guys projected to go in the 20s have a ton of offensive upside. If we could grab Strome/Marner with our 1st, Kylington/Konecny with an additional 1st, and Sprong/Svechnikov with Nashville's pick I'd pretty much pee myself in excitement.

May I suggest these?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

When you've got picks like McDavid/Eichel I always imagine a normal draft year being one without either of those two and so sort of mentally knock each ranking up a couple spots to where they might typically be ranked if not for special talents like those two.

I think that that's definitely the case for guys like Strome and Marner, they'd likely be getting 1st overall talk if if weren't for the generational players ahead of them. But it does genuinely seem like this is a much deeper draft than most. I remember that there have been discussions here that Gauthier, and to a lesser extent Biggs, may have been the best players available where we were picking even despite their low offensive ceilings. That definitely doesn't seem to be the case here, as there are Gauthier-type players available in the 20s alongside plenty of options of higher-scoring forwards.

 

[Highlander]

Best draft in years, we have to makes some more trades, at least get another 1st and two 2nds, would be nice to stock up the cupboards.