2016-17 Marlies Talk: New Season, Continued Expectations

[Frank E]

Was just reading about Marlies, and the kind of disappointing season they're having.

Looking at the up and comers, Kapanen and Leipsic are the only ones that might be ready to graduate.  I thought this was kind of disappointing.

But really, is anyone expecting the Marlies to develop more than 2 NHL ready guys per season?

 

[Highlander]

Was just reading about Marlies, and the kind of disappointing season they're having.

Looking at the up and comers, Kapanen and Leipsic are the only ones that might be ready to graduate.  I thought this was kind of disappointing.

But really, is anyone expecting the Marlies to develop more than 2 NHL ready guys per season?

Good point, I would think 2 per season would do the trick.  However it is possible to have a season were they may be able to graduate 4.  I can see Neilson and Dermott being ready in 2 more years, by that time Kapenen and Leipsic may find a spot as well. And they seem to want to fast track Gundstrom to the Marlies for some reason.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/828310717652692995
www.twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/828310717652692995

I was looking around for these numbers. 10 pts in 7 games.

In the 7 games prior up to Jan 20, the Marlies suffered 4 losses in a row. Since Griffith's arrival: only 2 losses in those 7, one coming on Seth's first game with the team.

It's not all Griffith either. Sparks is finally starting to get more starts, and he's putting up way better numbers than Bibeau since last season but mysteriously got the shaft for the playoffs.

 

[herman]

Pretty much every Marlie whose name you know is currently injured in some way.

Brendan Miller, called up from the ECHL, potted his first goal of his AHL career yesterday.
https://twitter.com/TorontoMarlies/status/833779725373939712
www.twitter.com/TorontoMarlies/status/833779725373939712

His sticks didn't arrive in Toronto in time, either, so he was borrowing Soshnikov's.

 

[herman]

Kapanen and Leipsic are back in skates!

 

[Zee]

Kapanen and Leipsic are back in skates!

Hopefully both are close to returning, would like to see one of them called up and get a shot.

 

[TBLeafer]

Thanks for the Marlies update Herman, I am just posting the Tweet from Alter to confirm.

[tweet]836619948734705664[/tweet]

 

[herman]

A+ TBLeafer. That's where I saw it first.

Kapanen is still probably a week or so out (knees are tricky). Leipsic is much closer.

Good for the Marlies, who just lost their leading scorer, Froese, to the team he scored the most against (4 G in 4 GP against Syracuse).

Marlies also picked up a pretty complicated name on loan:
https://twitter.com/TorontoMarlies/status/836598505829502977
www.twitter.com/TorontoMarlies/status/836598505829502977
He is the very definition of nothing to be excited about.

 

[Highlander]

good news for sure and with Froese gone they are going to need the firepower

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Kapanen returns to the Marlies today after missing 20 games with an injury. Line-up:

Moore Greening Griffith
Timashov Kalinin Kapanen
Rychel Gauthier Johnsson
Leblond Laich Cameranesi

Campbell Holl
Dermott Oleksy
Nielsen Wrenn

Bibeau

Once Leipsic returns, which should be soon, the Marlies wingers are going to be absolutely deadly. Especially if Timashov and Johnsson stay hot.

The centre position OTOH...

 

[Kin]

Kapanen returns to the Marlies today after missing 20 games with an injury. Line-up:

Moore Greening Griffith
Timashov Kalinin Kapanen
Rychel Gauthier Johnsson
Leblond Laich Cameranesi

Campbell Holl
Dermott Oleksy
Nielsen Wrenn

Bibeau

Once Leipsic returns, which should be soon, the Marlies wingers are going to be absolutely deadly. Especially if Timashov and Johnsson stay hot.

The centre position OTOH...

Will Adam Brooks be able to join the team once the WHL playoffs/Mem Cup is over? Because you have to figure he'd instantly become their best/oldest centre.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

The Marlies have also fought their way into a playoff spot, which admittedly I didn't see coming a couple of months ago. Corrado and Froese were both big parts of that though, so we'll see how they play without them.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Kapanen returns to the Marlies today after missing 20 games with an injury. Line-up:

Moore Greening Griffith
Timashov Kalinin Kapanen
Rychel Gauthier Johnsson
Leblond Laich Cameranesi

Campbell Holl
Dermott Oleksy
Nielsen Wrenn

Bibeau

Once Leipsic returns, which should be soon, the Marlies wingers are going to be absolutely deadly. Especially if Timashov and Johnsson stay hot.

The centre position OTOH...

Will Adam Brooks be able to join the team once the WHL playoffs/Mem Cup is over? Because you have to figure he'd instantly become their best/oldest centre.

Yes, he can join the team after his team is eliminated.  Seeing as his team is #1 in the CHL, I doubt the Marlies are still playing when his season ends.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Will Adam Brooks be able to join the team once the WHL playoffs/Mem Cup is over? Because you have to figure he'd instantly become their best/oldest centre.

His team, the Regina Pats, are hosting the Mem Cup this year. They're also the top ranked team in the WHL. So they'll likely be going pretty deep there. I doubt he'll be available.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Will Adam Brooks be able to join the team once the WHL playoffs/Mem Cup is over? Because you have to figure he'd instantly become their best/oldest centre.

His team, the Regina Pats, are hosting the Mem Cup this year. They're also the top ranked team in the WHL. So they'll likely be going pretty deep there. I doubt he'll be available.

The Pats are hosting the Mem Cup next year.  This year the Mem Cup is in Windsor.  As you said though, they will likely be going pretty deep so he will not likely be available.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

The Pats are hosting the Mem Cup next year.  This year the Mem Cup is in Windsor.  As you said though, they will likely be going pretty deep so he will not likely be available.

Ah, thanks, I googled 2017 Memorial Cup and saw their name pop up near the top.

 

[Kin]

Will Adam Brooks be able to join the team once the WHL playoffs/Mem Cup is over? Because you have to figure he'd instantly become their best/oldest centre.

His team, the Regina Pats, are hosting the Mem Cup this year. They're also the top ranked team in the WHL. So they'll likely be going pretty deep there. I doubt he'll be available.

Ah well. They'll have to look elsewhere for veteran leadership I suppose.

 

[Frank E]

Fehr can play centre, so there's that.

 

[herman]

I'd consider swinging Moore into the middle if our wings are so clogged.

Next year, we're adding Brooks, Bracco, Korostelev (currently injured), Dzierkals, Desrocher, Piccinich, Walker, Bobylev, and maybe Grundstrom, so this could get really stupid (awesome). Only one centre in that bunch. Maybe Cameranesi makes the move to centre too.

Lou mentioned that maybe half a dozen of the current Marlies are NHL capable right now (Kapanen, Leipsic, Griffith, Rychel, Gauthier being the obvious ones). Assuming one gets poached in expansion, and 2-3 graduate, the Marlies are looking staaaaacked next season.

 

[herman]

We're at the 50 SPC limit, so there won't be any help coming for the Marlies (other than Soshnikov, or ATOs). Fehr can play the regular season, but I don't think he is eligible for the playoffs.