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2016-17 Marlies Talk: New Season, Continued Expectations

Coco-puffs said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Coco-puffs said:
Kapanen has spent a bunch of this year on the PK for the Marlies too so that addresses one of Babcock's desires from his 4th line RW. 

I'd be somewhat impressed by Babcock if he actually played Kapanen on the PK. I just didn't get the sense that Babcock saw him as a penalty killer type in Kap's limited time with the Leafs last season. I'm not saying it won't ever happen, but given what's at stake right now I don't see it.

Apparently Babcock and Lou were at the Marlies game yesterday.  Kapanen stood out all game, including on the PP and PK.  Kapanen has made huge strides defensively this year according to Keefe.  Fingers crossed Babcock does actually play him- ahead of Smith and on the PK.

Other than convenient injuries to Leivo, Soshnikov, is there anything to read into Kapanen getting the call up with only 8 games left in the season? Or does his ELC no longer slide now that he has turned 20?
 
herman said:
Coco-puffs said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Coco-puffs said:
Kapanen has spent a bunch of this year on the PK for the Marlies too so that addresses one of Babcock's desires from his 4th line RW. 

I'd be somewhat impressed by Babcock if he actually played Kapanen on the PK. I just didn't get the sense that Babcock saw him as a penalty killer type in Kap's limited time with the Leafs last season. I'm not saying it won't ever happen, but given what's at stake right now I don't see it.

Apparently Babcock and Lou were at the Marlies game yesterday.  Kapanen stood out all game, including on the PP and PK.  Kapanen has made huge strides defensively this year according to Keefe.  Fingers crossed Babcock does actually play him- ahead of Smith and on the PK.

Other than convenient injuries to Leivo, Soshnikov, is there anything to read into Kapanen getting the call up with only 8 games left in the season? Or does his ELC no longer slide now that he has turned 20?

ELC no longer slides as he's two years out from his draft year.  Unless I misunderstood the rules, its about the years from draft and age combined.  Ie, Dermott, Nielsen, and Timashov are all on the Marlies this year and have already turned 20- but they were born after September 15th so they were 2015 draftee's.  Cap Friendly shows them as Slide-Risk this season, while Kapanen isn't. 

(Note, if you were 19 and drafted in 2015, then you wouldn't slide this year.  Same with Adam Brooks next year, he won't slide at all despite being drafted last year.)
 
AHL regular season ended last night. Marlies finish 2nd in the North Division and will face the Albany Devils in the 1st round.

North Division Semifinals ? Series ?D? (best-of-5)
N2-Toronto Marlies vs. N3-Albany Devils
Game 1 ? Thu., Apr. 20 ? Toronto at Albany, 7:00
Game 2 ? Sat., Apr. 22 ? Toronto at Albany, 5:00
Game 3 ? Wed., Apr. 26 ? Albany at Toronto, 7:00
*Game 4 ? Fri., Apr. 28 ? Albany at Toronto, 7:00
*Game 5 ? Sat., Apr. 29 ? Albany at Toronto, 7:00
*if necessary? All times Eastern
 
Kapanen loaned to the Marlies

They also signed the Wheat Kings' overaged goalie Jordan Papirny to an ATO.
Not sure what kind of action he'd see with the Marlies.
 
herman said:
Kapanen loaned to the Marlies

They also signed the Wheat Kings' overaged goalie Jordan Papirny to an ATO.
Not sure what kind of action he'd see with the Marlies.

I was wondering if any Leafs were going to be lent to the Marlies for their playoff run. Sounds like Kapanen was the only one who was both healthy and eligible. Hope he lights it up for the Baby Buds!
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Kapanen to Leipsic x2

2-2 After 2

Colin Greening scored less than a minute into overtime to give the Marlies a 2-1 series advantage. Highlights here:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUGhRKK6RCw[/youtube]

These were the Marlies' lines for anyone interested:

Rychel-O'Reilly-Griffith
Leipsic-Gauthier-Kapanen
Johnsson-Kalinin-Sislo
Timashov-Greening-Moore

Dermott-Valiev
Campbell-Holl
Nielsen-Oleksy

Kasimir Kaskisuo got the start for the Marlies. Sparks was hurt in game 2.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
These were the Marlies' lines for anyone interested:

Rychel-O'Reilly-Griffith
Leipsic-Gauthier-Kapanen
Johnsson-Kalinin-Sislo
Timashov-Greening-Moore

Aside from that woeful centre depth, that's the kind of attack balance I would like to see on the Leafs eventually.

Babcock prefers a Top-9/Bottom-3 in ice time spread, and a Scoring-6/Checking-6 in terms of line role. Defensively responsible wingers with scoring panache is where it's at if you have the right horses down the middle.
 
I hope somehow that Leipsic and Kapanen are paired up on the big club next year. Ideally surrounding Nylander but I think that would work for Kadri too.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I hope somehow that Leipsic and Kapanen are paired up on the big club next year. Ideally surrounding Nylander but I think that would work for Kadri too.

Those 2 with Nylander would be awesome. I think them with Kadri would make a good scoring line too but it obviously wouldn't be able to get used in a shutdown role like Kadri did this season. But I am starting to have some doubts about whether Bozak and/or JVR get traded this offseason or not. If they do stay, I still think that whole line needs to get broken up. Throw JVR with Matthews and Marner with Kadri and you can still have Leispic and Kapanen together with Bozak.

Either way, I agree with the premise that both of them should get a fair shot at a top-9 role next season. Just watching the highlights from that game and Kapanen looks like such a different player when he's got skill around him. Still can't believe he was never put on the powerplay up here.
 
Any of the Dman on the Marlies expected to make a run at the Leafs roster next season? I have been oblivious to the Marlies this season.
 
cabber24 said:
Any of the Dman on the Marlies expected to make a run at the Leafs roster next season? I have been oblivious to the Marlies this season.

McKenzie has been talking about Nielsen and Dermott this season, I guess it depends on how the Mariles run + training camp goes for them.
 
Dermott moves like an NHLer already, he has a bit of Gardiner about him in his own zone though.

If they are as committed to the plan as they say they are, I have a hard time understanding not moving JVR this summer. JVR with 50% retained could fetch a kings ransom from a contender looking to take another run.

2.2 million for 30/60 is unreal value.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Kapanen to Leipsic x2

2-2 After 2

Colin Greening scored less than a minute into overtime to give the Marlies a 2-1 series advantage. Highlights here:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUGhRKK6RCw[/youtube]

These were the Marlies' lines for anyone interested:

Rychel-O'Reilly-Griffith
Leipsic-Gauthier-Kapanen
Johnsson-Kalinin-Sislo
Timashov-Greening-Moore

Dermott-Valiev
Campbell-Holl
Nielsen-Oleksy

Kasimir Kaskisuo got the start for the Marlies. Sparks was hurt in game 2.
Found it strange that Kaskisuo got the start in place of Bibeau (has he lost his mojor or something?).  I had read that Kaskisuo was gone to the Solar Bears as Massa was hurt in the line brawl in their playoff game. Also Kappi took two stupid penalties last night, really dumb ones that Babs would have made him sit for a while
 
Bibeau still has the ability to be a .940 goalie in the AHL for stretches, the problem with him seems to me to be that he uses micro adjustments and it means often times against quality opponents he isn't "set" for the shot against, when he concedes a couple he doesn't seem to have the best bounce back ability.

 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Bibeau still has the ability to be a .940 goalie in the AHL for stretches, the problem with him seems to me to be that he uses micro adjustments and it means often times against quality opponents he isn't "set" for the shot against, when he concedes a couple he doesn't seem to have the best bounce back ability.

He is also terrible on high danger scrambles in front (moreso than most).
 
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