2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion
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I liked this point about Patrick Marleau:
If a shake-up of the forward lines ever happens, I'd really like to see Marner play with Marleau and Kadri. That line could really mimic how the Matthews line plays I think. And putting Komarov (or Brown) with JVR and Bozak would add a defensive element to that duo for the first time ever.
If a shake-up of the forward lines ever happens, I'd really like to see Marner play with Marleau and Kadri. That line could really mimic how the Matthews line plays I think. And putting Komarov (or Brown) with JVR and Bozak would add a defensive element to that duo for the first time ever.
herman
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Marleau's speed on the backcheck was another something something that sort of got lost in the fireworks of last night's game. He has also been working with some of the younger players (especially Marner) after practice on shot release and getting reps in tight on the crease.
BlueWhiteBlood
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CarltonTheBear said:
I kind of like that also, because Bozak and JVR need the help I think..
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Pierre Lebrun sat in on a discussion between Ray Shero and Mike Babcock this morning, I found it quite interesting.
https://theathletic.com/124787/2017/10/11/lebrun-mike-babcock-and-ray-shero-talk-sharing-information-what-makes-a-good-coach-and-managing-people/
https://theathletic.com/124787/2017/10/11/lebrun-mike-babcock-and-ray-shero-talk-sharing-information-what-makes-a-good-coach-and-managing-people/
Zee
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disco said:
I'm getting my girls into watching hockey. It's so much fun now that the Leafs aren't a horrible team anymore. My kids sit and watch 1-2 periods with me before it's time for them to sleep, then they're excited the next morning asking me who won. Was great the Chicago game cause they went to bed thinking the Leafs would lose but I got to tell them that superstar Auston Matthews won the game for us.
I wish the Leafs were this good when I was a kid. :-/
herman
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If you have any interesting in the microstats of the defense corps, you can find them consolidated here!
http://dissecttheblueline.weebly.com/leafs.html
Not including Game 1 vs the Jets:
Rielly is basically a 5th forward on the PP, who can also skate backwards. Not much of a shot though.
http://dissecttheblueline.weebly.com/leafs.html
Not including Game 1 vs the Jets:
Rielly is basically a 5th forward on the PP, who can also skate backwards. Not much of a shot though.
herman
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It's so, so, so early to judge these signings, but why not?
Aaltonen (March 17, 2017): On the Marlies as expected, but quite a bit feistier and more skilled than his stat-lines suggested. Trails only Soshnikov and Rychel with shots on goal having only played 4 of the 5 games.
Bracco (March 21, 2017): Has only just started his season (2 GP) with the Marlies due to a bout of mono over the summer and losing what little weight he had to begin with. He has a tough climb ahead of him
Ben Smith (May 2, 2017): Don't look now, but Smith is leading the Marlies in scoring at a point per game. I like him on the Marlies. Please stay there.
Zaitsev (May 2, 2017): Looks solid and more confident. It was largely the back half when he tired that things started looking bleak. He mentioned last season that he trained slightly wrong, and dumped too many EVs into his Physical Attack stat instead of Speed and HP. Playing with Gardiner sure helps, but he's still getting the hard match every night and no PP time.
Ros?n (May 16, 2017): Looking a bit lost in the NHL game speed, but there's an adjustment period. His wheels are beautiful, but his game think is suspect. No PP time means we'll probably only very rarely see his shot this season. Confidence does wonders though and that hopefully comes as his cushy zone starts builds up his performance.
Borgman (May 16, 2017): Younger, but better than Ros?n in terms of toolkit and development runway. I didn't think he'd get big league time so soon, but he's been relatively steady for a rookie. I don't mind Babcock carouseling them.
McElhinney ( June 30, 2017): Looked both extremes during pre-season. Let's see what happens tonight. Probably won't get hooked regardless due to Andersen's rest requirements.
Hainsey (July 1, 2017): As advertised, he has been boring so far, and can still move. Doesn't quite have the instinct on break outs when we're hemmed in (so very few do), but he's so smart at the blue line and positions himself very efficiently along the boards.
Marleau (July 2, 2017): Also as advertised, he has been a solid depth contributor both on offense and defensively. If he wins the Cup with us, what jersey does he wear for the HHoF induction?
Hyman (July 5, 2017): People are hating him on the top line less. Probably because he's showing more confidence with the puck and potting goals. His play without the puck is as superb as it was last season and might be even better now that he's starting to pick his spots to box out plays for Matthews and Nylander to fly by.
Liljegren (July 12, 2017): So glad he decided to stay in Toronto, and so glad it's with the Marlies instead of being forced onto the Leafs (deeeeeppppppptttthhhhh). He is adjusting to the new country and NA game, which means he is leading the defense in shots and points so far (4 GP, 1G, 2A, 8SOG), and also in this extremely small sample size, out producing Kapanen (4GP, 2G, 0 A, 7SOG).
Brown (August 26, 2017): Brown is playing like it's his contract year; he's just flying into the forecheck and backcheck. Playing every phase of the game helps him get the minutes he should be getting higher up in the lineup. He doesn't drive play on his own, but playing alongside skill, he is a very good complement.
Aaltonen (March 17, 2017): On the Marlies as expected, but quite a bit feistier and more skilled than his stat-lines suggested. Trails only Soshnikov and Rychel with shots on goal having only played 4 of the 5 games.
Bracco (March 21, 2017): Has only just started his season (2 GP) with the Marlies due to a bout of mono over the summer and losing what little weight he had to begin with. He has a tough climb ahead of him
Ben Smith (May 2, 2017): Don't look now, but Smith is leading the Marlies in scoring at a point per game. I like him on the Marlies. Please stay there.
Zaitsev (May 2, 2017): Looks solid and more confident. It was largely the back half when he tired that things started looking bleak. He mentioned last season that he trained slightly wrong, and dumped too many EVs into his Physical Attack stat instead of Speed and HP. Playing with Gardiner sure helps, but he's still getting the hard match every night and no PP time.
Ros?n (May 16, 2017): Looking a bit lost in the NHL game speed, but there's an adjustment period. His wheels are beautiful, but his game think is suspect. No PP time means we'll probably only very rarely see his shot this season. Confidence does wonders though and that hopefully comes as his cushy zone starts builds up his performance.
Borgman (May 16, 2017): Younger, but better than Ros?n in terms of toolkit and development runway. I didn't think he'd get big league time so soon, but he's been relatively steady for a rookie. I don't mind Babcock carouseling them.
McElhinney ( June 30, 2017): Looked both extremes during pre-season. Let's see what happens tonight. Probably won't get hooked regardless due to Andersen's rest requirements.
Hainsey (July 1, 2017): As advertised, he has been boring so far, and can still move. Doesn't quite have the instinct on break outs when we're hemmed in (so very few do), but he's so smart at the blue line and positions himself very efficiently along the boards.
Marleau (July 2, 2017): Also as advertised, he has been a solid depth contributor both on offense and defensively. If he wins the Cup with us, what jersey does he wear for the HHoF induction?
Hyman (July 5, 2017): People are hating him on the top line less. Probably because he's showing more confidence with the puck and potting goals. His play without the puck is as superb as it was last season and might be even better now that he's starting to pick his spots to box out plays for Matthews and Nylander to fly by.
Liljegren (July 12, 2017): So glad he decided to stay in Toronto, and so glad it's with the Marlies instead of being forced onto the Leafs (deeeeeppppppptttthhhhh). He is adjusting to the new country and NA game, which means he is leading the defense in shots and points so far (4 GP, 1G, 2A, 8SOG), and also in this extremely small sample size, out producing Kapanen (4GP, 2G, 0 A, 7SOG).
Brown (August 26, 2017): Brown is playing like it's his contract year; he's just flying into the forecheck and backcheck. Playing every phase of the game helps him get the minutes he should be getting higher up in the lineup. He doesn't drive play on his own, but playing alongside skill, he is a very good complement.
herman
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https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/10/18/leafs-notebook-early-look-ice-time-distribution-october-18/
Great stuff looking into our personnel usage at the moment. Lots of role-based usage (Carlton mentioned the PK times in the Capital's GDT). Glaring hole on 4LW in that it is being filled by someone who has a very specific utility.
This is so fun. It also breaks Corsica data pulls unless you specify the right TOI boundaries, because they crazy.
Great stuff looking into our personnel usage at the moment. Lots of role-based usage (Carlton mentioned the PK times in the Capital's GDT). Glaring hole on 4LW in that it is being filled by someone who has a very specific utility.
This is so fun. It also breaks Corsica data pulls unless you specify the right TOI boundaries, because they crazy.
dappleganger
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Anyone feeling the same way? Leafs No. 1 in the TSN power rankings:
http://www.tsn.ca/turning-over-a-new-leaf-in-7-eleven-power-rankings-1.885880
http://www.tsn.ca/turning-over-a-new-leaf-in-7-eleven-power-rankings-1.885880
Vegas co-favorites as well...Dappleganger said:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news/maple-leafs-now-betting-favourites-to-win-the-stanley-cup/ar-AAtGRRI?li=AAggNb9