2019-2020 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[herman]

Massive changes this season

This is what our roster looked like last opening night. Bold are gone, italicized are injured:

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Ennis
Leivo-Kadri-Brown
Johnsson-Lindholm-Kapanen

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Ozhiganov

Andersen
Sparks

Coaches: Babcock, Hiller, Smith

To:
Kapanen-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Moore
Timashov-Spezza-Gauthier
Shore

Rielly-Ceci
Muzzin-Barrie
Sandin-Marincin
Liljegren-Holl

Andersen
Hutchinson

Coaches: Babcock, McFarland, Hakstol

 

[herman]

There was no larger controversy of addition to the Leafs than Cody Ceci. Is he just the cost of doing the business of jettisoning Zaitsev's deal, or is he someone the front office targeted to rehabilitate value from? Why not both?

https://theathletic.com/1252731/2019/10/01/mirtle-can-cody-ceci-and-his-ugly-analytics-really-help-the-maple-leafs-this-season/

In Mirtle's interview with Ceci, we see someone who is cognizant of his reputation in the analytics space as well as someone who actually understands its use and limitations.

?I?ve definitely heard of Corsi,? he said. ?I mean, it?s kind of ? if you?re playing with a shutdown line and you?re starting every shift in your end against teams? top lines, it?s tough to have a good Corsi. You?re not going to control the puck too much in the offensive zone. Once you get out of the D zone, get down there, get a whistle, you?re usually coming off the ice."

He and fellow trademate Ben Harpur also shed some light on how the Leafs plan to play this season. As already evidenced in the preseason, the Leafs are finally going to do the thing we've been asking for since 2016:

Both Ceci and Harpur have remarked in camp how different the Leafs? system is than what they played in Ottawa. They pointed to how much more focus there is on making small passing plays and advancing the puck with control, something that wasn?t always a focal point with the Senators. What defencemen are asked to do in the neutral zone is also vastly different.

[...]

?One of the big things I?ve noticed here is really playing more of a possession game as opposed to a run-and-gun,? Harpur said. ?In Ottawa, we were more inclined to just go north with the puck no matter what, whether we were throwing it off the glass or just advancing it at all costs. There?s more of a possession mindset here. We?re more inclined to make those little soft plays to the middle or find a forward and getting it to them as opposed to just going north every single time.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Petan and Agostino have cleared waivers. That's pretty surprising to me but I'll take it.

 

[disco]

Molson Canadian Presents The Leaf: Blueprint Episode 1- Training Camp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A31KLHLVZc8&feature=youtu.be

Willy from the start, 2nd pairing is Muzzin-Barrie instead of Gardiner-Zaitsev, more forward diversity in the bottom six, the insertion of Rasmus Sandin, new special teams coaches, not to mention the core players are simply bigger and wiser. All improvements. We got a great club. Very excited.

 

[herman]

https://theathletic.com/1248016/2019/09/27/marv-the-onion-revis-island-the-gangster-what-martin-marincins-nicknames-reveal-about-him/

Martin Marincin is going to be this year's Ron Hainsey. He's the team weird uncle with all the deadpan sardonic bon mots, playing all the PK time, and looks frustrating on the ice for both fans and opponents. The key difference is now it's 3rd pair expectations.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Massive changes this season

This is what our roster looked like last opening night. Bold are gone, italicized are injured:

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Ennis
Leivo-Kadri-Brown
Johnsson-Lindholm-Kapanen

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Ozhiganov

Andersen
Sparks

Coaches: Babcock, Hiller, Smith

To:
Kapanen-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Moore
Timashov-Spezza-Gauthier
Shore

Rielly-Ceci
Muzzin-Barrie
Sandin-Marincin
Liljegren-Holl

Andersen
Hutchinson

Coaches: Babcock, McFarland, Hakstol

Guys, our longest tenured forwards are:

Nylander, Kapanen, and Hyman.  They were all recalled by the Leafs on Feb 29, 2016. 

As is well know, only Rielly pre-dates the tank year.  Only him and Marincin were on the roster at the start of that year. 

What a drastic change.

 

[Frank E]

https://theathletic.com/1248016/2019/09/27/marv-the-onion-revis-island-the-gangster-what-martin-marincins-nicknames-reveal-about-him/

Martin Marincin is going to be this year's Ron Hainsey. He's the team weird uncle with all the deadpan sardonic bon mots, playing all the PK time, and looks frustrating on the ice for both fans and opponents. The key difference is now it's 3rd pair expectations.

The Athletic seems to be continuing their hard hitting pieces on the Leafs. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://theathletic.com/1248016/2019/09/27/marv-the-onion-revis-island-the-gangster-what-martin-marincins-nicknames-reveal-about-him/

Martin Marincin is going to be this year's Ron Hainsey. He's the team weird uncle with all the deadpan sardonic bon mots, playing all the PK time, and looks frustrating on the ice for both fans and opponents. The key difference is now it's 3rd pair expectations.

The Athletic seems to be continuing their hard hitting pieces on the Leafs. 

When I clicked this link just now it said there was 49 seconds left to claim a 40% off discount. That's a lot of pressure to put on someone.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Petan and Agostino have cleared waivers. That's pretty surprising to me but I'll take it.

Good for the call ups but are these 2 the first to come up? I actually liked Korshkov's game better then them. Give the Leafs good options though moving forward.

 

[herman]

https://theathletic.com/1248016/2019/09/27/marv-the-onion-revis-island-the-gangster-what-martin-marincins-nicknames-reveal-about-him/

Martin Marincin is going to be this year's Ron Hainsey. He's the team weird uncle with all the deadpan sardonic bon mots, playing all the PK time, and looks frustrating on the ice for both fans and opponents. The key difference is now it's 3rd pair expectations.

The Athletic seems to be continuing their hard hitting pieces on the Leafs.

Toronto getting the Matthews lottery pick is the only reason The Athletic made it off the ground as fast as it has.

 

[herman]

Petan and Agostino have cleared waivers. That's pretty surprising to me but I'll take it.

Good for the call ups but are these 2 the first to come up? I actually liked Korshkov's game better then them. Give the Leafs good options though moving forward.

Korshkov will be too expensive to call up for a generic injury. A more expensive LTIR would be his only window of opportunity.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Petan and Agostino have cleared waivers. That's pretty surprising to me but I'll take it.

Good for the call ups but are these 2 the first to come up? I actually liked Korshkov's game better then them. Give the Leafs good options though moving forward.

Korshkov will be too expensive to call up for a generic injury. A more expensive LTIR would be his only window of opportunity.

Very true. Forgot about that.

 

[disco]

Massive changes this season

This is what our roster looked like last opening night. Bold are gone, italicized are injured:

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Ennis
Leivo-Kadri-Brown
Johnsson-Lindholm-Kapanen

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Ozhiganov

Andersen
Sparks

Coaches: Babcock, Hiller, Smith

To:
Kapanen-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Moore
Timashov-Spezza-Gauthier
Shore

Rielly-Ceci
Muzzin-Barrie
Sandin-Marincin
Liljegren-Holl

Andersen
Hutchinson

Coaches: Babcock, McFarland, Hakstol

Guys, our longest tenured forwards are:

Nylander, Kapanen, and Hyman.  They were all recalled by the Leafs on Feb 29, 2016. 

As is well know, only Rielly pre-dates the tank year.  Only him and Marincin were on the roster at the start of that year. 

What a drastic change.

I remember that, the youth infusion at the end of the brilliantly orchestrated tank year. Beginning of a new era.

 

[Frank E]

https://theathletic.com/1248016/2019/09/27/marv-the-onion-revis-island-the-gangster-what-martin-marincins-nicknames-reveal-about-him/

Martin Marincin is going to be this year's Ron Hainsey. He's the team weird uncle with all the deadpan sardonic bon mots, playing all the PK time, and looks frustrating on the ice for both fans and opponents. The key difference is now it's 3rd pair expectations.

The Athletic seems to be continuing their hard hitting pieces on the Leafs. 

When I clicked this link just now it said there was 49 seconds left to claim a 40% off discount. That's a lot of pressure to put on someone.

I haven't ever subscribed, but I can tell you that whenever I mistakenly click on one of their links, the 40-50% off pop up comes up...like, for years.

 

[Frank E]

https://theathletic.com/1248016/2019/09/27/marv-the-onion-revis-island-the-gangster-what-martin-marincins-nicknames-reveal-about-him/

Martin Marincin is going to be this year's Ron Hainsey. He's the team weird uncle with all the deadpan sardonic bon mots, playing all the PK time, and looks frustrating on the ice for both fans and opponents. The key difference is now it's 3rd pair expectations.

The Athletic seems to be continuing their hard hitting pieces on the Leafs.

Toronto getting the Matthews lottery pick is the only reason The Athletic made it off the ground as fast as it has.

It's like the propaganda "Molson Leafs Blueprint"...or like Henny's tough first questions at press conferences: "Mike, how great is it to have so many weapons available to you on your PP?"

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I haven't ever subscribed, but I can tell you that whenever I mistakenly click on one of their links, the 40-50% off pop up comes up...like, for years.

Yeah, I hate those sort of practices. Reminds me of how when a phone company is trying to sell you on something if you say no they'll always go "talk to their manager" (i.e. put you on hold and stare at their desk for 60 seconds) and come back with a lower price.

 

[herman]

https://theathletic.com/1248016/2019/09/27/marv-the-onion-revis-island-the-gangster-what-martin-marincins-nicknames-reveal-about-him/

Martin Marincin is going to be this year's Ron Hainsey. He's the team weird uncle with all the deadpan sardonic bon mots, playing all the PK time, and looks frustrating on the ice for both fans and opponents. The key difference is now it's 3rd pair expectations.

The Athletic seems to be continuing their hard hitting pieces on the Leafs.

Toronto getting the Matthews lottery pick is the only reason The Athletic made it off the ground as fast as it has.

It's like the propaganda "Molson Leafs Blueprint"...or like Henny's tough first questions at press conferences: "Mike, how great is it to have so many weapons available to you on your PP?"

That is false. Henny doesn?t ask questions, he just makes a statement and pauses for response.

PH: ?Mike, you have so many weapons on the power play.?

 

[herman]

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/10/01/mike-babcock-on-the-growth-of-the-team-over-last-year/

Should I just quote Babcock out of context this year every time he forgets that phrasing is a thing?

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1179548368395223040

Cap shenanigans. Something to do with his bonuses too.

Petan is up in response.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1179578787996082177
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1179581913515905025

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