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2021-2022 NHL Thread

CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/simmonssteve/status/1518032404644048896

Credit to Simmons for refusing to let someone in hockey media post something dumber on twitter than him.

This might be the dumbest thing a hockey media person has ever said. And that?s saying something.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/simmonssteve/status/1518032404644048896

Credit to Simmons for refusing to let someone in hockey media post something dumber on twitter than him.
He deleted it when many people pointed out that every goal scored in the history of hockey has come off a shot attempt
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Big yikes.

Also the tweet he was replying to wasn't deleted, but it's from a locked account. Says: "It?s just appalling how certain reporters are just credulously flogging bitcoin, an environmental catastrophe whose only viable use case is to con suckers and commit crime.".
Yeah, I figured that out after posting about it being a locked account. Which makes me wonder if he locked it after a bunch of BitClowns went after him? Apparently CJ took the Bitcoin logo out of his profile after writing his recent Peter Holland Bitcoin puff piece.
 
Speaking of terrible things for the world, I wonder if there is anything fans can do to voice their disapproval of the NHL?s total sell out to gambling interests.  Every comment or is now commenting on how they gamble and the odds. Segments that look like they are between reporters (usually young guys in their 20s) discussing odds and bets.

I was looking for a quick summary of the costs of gambling on to individuals and society but googling ran into so much material for people with gambling problems that I couldn?t uncover the kind of broad but quick survey or list of facts I was looking for?.

If I had to guess, online gambling is going to be so much worse for people than casinos because it is so accessible. At least you have to go to a casino to gamble and you can put yourself on a problem gambler list. It seems impossible to wall yourself off from gambling and still own a computer.

We need some laws that ban all this gambling advertising like we have for cigarettes. Same concept: addictive and bad for your health.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Yeah, I figured that out after posting about it being a locked account. Which makes me wonder if he locked it after a bunch of BitClowns went after him? Apparently CJ took the Bitcoin logo out of his profile after writing his recent Peter Holland Bitcoin puff piece.

Not a bad theory but no, 67sound's been locked for about as long as I can remember. He's a very long-time member of "Leafs Twitter" dating back to when he was a blogger with PPP during the Caryle/Nonis years aka the Golden Age of Leafs Blogging.
 
princedpw said:
Speaking of terrible things for the world, I wonder if there is anything fans can do to voice their disapproval of the NHL?s total sell out to gambling interests.  Every comment or is now commenting on how they gamble and the odds. Segments that look like they are between reporters (usually young guys in their 20s) discussing odds and bets.

I was looking for a quick summary of the costs of gambling on to individuals and society but googling ran into so much material for people with gambling problems that I couldn?t uncover the kind of broad but quick survey or list of facts I was looking for?.

If I had to guess, online gambling is going to be so much worse for people than casinos because it is so accessible. At least you have to go to a casino to gamble and you can put yourself on a problem gambler list. It seems impossible to wall yourself off from gambling and still own a computer.

We need some laws that ban all this gambling advertising like we have for cigarettes. Same concept: addictive and bad for your health.

While I agree with you, follow the money.
 
princedpw said:
Speaking of terrible things for the world, I wonder if there is anything fans can do to voice their disapproval of the NHL?s total sell out to gambling interests.  Every comment or is now commenting on how they gamble and the odds. Segments that look like they are between reporters (usually young guys in their 20s) discussing odds and bets.

I was looking for a quick summary of the costs of gambling on to individuals and society but googling ran into so much material for people with gambling problems that I couldn?t uncover the kind of broad but quick survey or list of facts I was looking for?.

If I had to guess, online gambling is going to be so much worse for people than casinos because it is so accessible. At least you have to go to a casino to gamble and you can put yourself on a problem gambler list. It seems impossible to wall yourself off from gambling and still own a computer.

We need some laws that ban all this gambling advertising like we have for cigarettes. Same concept: addictive and bad for your health.
I don?t disagree. I have no interest in sports betting and don?t have any moral qualms in general about gambling. But the pushing of sports betting has abruptly become so shockingly pervasive now, and it seems everybody in sports reporting from the networks to the reporters are taking their cut.

I prefer my sports Itchy and Scratchy without the gambling Poochie and wish he would go back to his home planet.
 
All about the sponsor/ad money and let's not kid ourselves here, this isn't new even if the advertising is. Online gambling has been around since the 90's. I've got many friends that have bet online for years. It became legal in the US in 2013 and in 2022 for Ontario.
I really don't care who pays for the ads during a game.
 
Guilt Trip said:
All about the sponsor/ad money and let's not kid ourselves here, this isn't new even if the advertising is. Online gambling has been around since the 90's. I've got many friends that have bet online for years. It became legal in the US in 2013 and in 2022 for Ontario.
I really don't care who pays for the ads during a game.
Sure. But the thing is, for me, I don?t take issue with the ads themselves, the 30 second spots here and there, the ads on the boards, whatever. What?s increasingly bugging me is how much and how insidiously the ad sponsors are making the content providers themselves in the media talk about the betting lines and odds, their various bets, etc. It used to be the clearly introduced as the one minute ?Pro-Line Picks of the Day? or whatever by radio or TV guys, but now they?re getting into long and, to me, clearly paid for (without any actual disclosures to that effect), discussions about their various bets and the odds of this and that. I want to listen to a hockey podcast and then that last 25% is some hockey journalist talking about betting lines with reference to specific gambling sites. The gambling companies are deliberately injecting gambling into the sports discourse in ways that go well beyond straightforward 30 second ads and logo on the boards.
 
Betting is a huge part of all sports like it or not ..they are catering to the masses. TSN Radio has a daily show, Game Play that's pretty much based on betting. Mike Johnson has been talking odds for quite a while now. Welcome to the new world. I guess if people reject it over time they will change. 
 
The free market will surely do what?s best for everyone who has fallen into addiction
mad-men-betty-draper.gif
 
Guilt Trip said:
Betting is a huge part of all sports like it or not ..they are catering to the masses. TSN Radio has a daily show, Game Play that's pretty much based on betting. Mike Johnson has been talking odds for quite a while now. Welcome to the new world. I guess if people reject it over time they will change.

This is where the grey area comes into play.  If betting is addictive, akin to nicotine, then what is the obligation of society to step in and regulate it so that society doesn't have to pay a cost for it?
 
Rob said:
And really, as a reasonable human being, you are responsible for your choices.  There are many vices that someone could potentially get entangled in.

That?s a really shortsighted viewpoint of it.  There are many vices people get stuck in.  Not all of them are shoved down peoples throats. 
 
Rob said:
And really, as a reasonable human being, you are responsible for your choices.  There are many vices that someone could potentially get entangled in.

For the most part, things that are genuinely seen as vices are pretty tightly regulated. Remember, for instance, how much smoking advertising their used to be? Now there isn't. Same with how alchohol advertising is restricted.

And, largely, for the same reasons. It's easy enough to say "We're all adults and we're all responsible for our individual choices" but the truth is that sports broadcasting is still watched by a lot of people who aren't adults and are impressionable about these things.
 
https://twitter.com/sanjosesharks/status/1518455066348310528
https://twitter.com/moneypuckdotcom/status/1518454133489123328
 
Joe S. said:
So Uhhhh Tampa woke up it seems. This is unsettling.

Meh, the Leafs couldn't beat the worst playoff team in 30 years after going up 3 games to 1, and lost the season prior to a crappy Columbus team.  It doesn't really matter who the opponent is, but just imagine how sweet it will be to say we knocked off the 2 time defending champ who was suddenly hot?
 

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