2021 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
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Heroic Shrimp
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Highlander
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All we got was Merry Weather for Bringer of Rain.
Highlander
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he was more broken than humpty dumpty and didn't look like he could be put together again.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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The streams that get posted for the Leafs in the gdt, would there be a Jay's equivalent?
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Those sites that get linked there have MLB streams as well on their pages.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Thanks CtB, that's what I did after posting, I turned it on just for RR to give up a 3 run dinner, sorry.CarltonTheBear said:
Another helpful user sent me a link via pm. Thanks.
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Heroic Shrimp
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L K
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Certainly not unexpected but the Jays fell flat on their faces in Tropicana. They lost 2 of three.
The Kirk-Kiermaier wrist card thing was stupid. I don't like Kiermaier doing it. It wasn't a card that was left in a dugout or accidentally delivered to the wrong lockerroom. He knocked it off Kirk's wrist and then picked it up. The Jays noticed it and wanted it back and he wouldn't give it back. A guy on second base reading signs off the catcher is one thing, Kiermaier actively stole something. It's poor sportsmanship.
Some of the home plate umpiring was abysmal particularly in the first two games. It was a perfect set of games to hold up as advocacy for a robotic strikezone. Ron Kulpa and Joe West are both terrible umpires. Both are in the bottom 5 in the league for pitch call accuracy.
Then that gets traded off with the thing I think I hate the most in baseball when the Jays intentionally hit him.
End result the Jays are now sitting 0.5 games back of the Yankees for the 2nd wildcard.
The Jays start a 4-game series against Minnesota tonight in Minneapolis. New York and Boston have the day off and all teams will be even in GP after tonight. New York and Boston play three against each other starting on Friday. Best outcome for the Jays would be a Boston series win at this point.
The Kirk-Kiermaier wrist card thing was stupid. I don't like Kiermaier doing it. It wasn't a card that was left in a dugout or accidentally delivered to the wrong lockerroom. He knocked it off Kirk's wrist and then picked it up. The Jays noticed it and wanted it back and he wouldn't give it back. A guy on second base reading signs off the catcher is one thing, Kiermaier actively stole something. It's poor sportsmanship.
Some of the home plate umpiring was abysmal particularly in the first two games. It was a perfect set of games to hold up as advocacy for a robotic strikezone. Ron Kulpa and Joe West are both terrible umpires. Both are in the bottom 5 in the league for pitch call accuracy.
Then that gets traded off with the thing I think I hate the most in baseball when the Jays intentionally hit him.
End result the Jays are now sitting 0.5 games back of the Yankees for the 2nd wildcard.
The Jays start a 4-game series against Minnesota tonight in Minneapolis. New York and Boston have the day off and all teams will be even in GP after tonight. New York and Boston play three against each other starting on Friday. Best outcome for the Jays would be a Boston series win at this point.
OldTimeHockey
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L K said:
Emotions can derail young teams. I don't think this series necessarily knocks them off the path they were on, but it certainly creates drama/distraction on a team where it's not needed. Coaches needed to control emotions of themselves, and their players. The stolen card thing was stupid, but who cares really in the end. Tampa has the same reviews as Toronto has on the hitters. They know how teams are going to pitch to their players. Each player knows what pitchers are going to try and do to them. They all have books.
In regards to the terrible umpiring, it was abysmal in that first game and IMO cost the Jays the game. Ray was painting the strike zone and getting no calls. His pitch count went up because of these calls. It was rather confusing and understandably frustrating for the Jays. It continued on throughout the game(including the 9th where the Rays pitcher received some calls that were clear balls).
So, theoretically, the Jays should have taken 2 out of 3 games. Game 3 was a sh*tshow and I hope that it wasn't a sign of emotions getting the better of the young players. If it is, I hope the manager can real them in.
bustaheims
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Joe S. said:
Winning the series with the Yankees next week is now absolutely crucial for the Jays. Also, with New York and Boston facing off this weekend, beating up on Minnesota is also very important.
L K
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Still have to win the majority of the bad teams. 7 of their last 10 against Minnesota and Baltimore.
They are 5-2 in their last 7 games against Baltimore but even two of those wins required late game heroics to come back (granted they ultimately blew them out in one of those games). They took 2 of 3 from Minnesota the last time they played but it wasn't like they had cake-walks against them either. Minnesota is on their last homestand of the year so I don't want to bank on anything being easy.
5-2 has to be a minimum result out of those 7 games
Really though, at the end of the day the Jays took a team that at the start of the year was probably just an 80-84 win team and are going to likely win 90+ games so that's a good positive outcome regardless of the end of season standings. Especially given that the bullpen was a big factor in the Jays losing more than a handful of games earlier in the year. If they had signed a different closer than Yates who was apparently known to be injured at the time of signing who knows how much better off they would be.
They are 5-2 in their last 7 games against Baltimore but even two of those wins required late game heroics to come back (granted they ultimately blew them out in one of those games). They took 2 of 3 from Minnesota the last time they played but it wasn't like they had cake-walks against them either. Minnesota is on their last homestand of the year so I don't want to bank on anything being easy.
5-2 has to be a minimum result out of those 7 games
Really though, at the end of the day the Jays took a team that at the start of the year was probably just an 80-84 win team and are going to likely win 90+ games so that's a good positive outcome regardless of the end of season standings. Especially given that the bullpen was a big factor in the Jays losing more than a handful of games earlier in the year. If they had signed a different closer than Yates who was apparently known to be injured at the time of signing who knows how much better off they would be.
Highlander
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Its time for Robo umpires, we have the technology, with fastballs coming at the plate at over 100MPH human umpires are going to make frequent mistakes, which they do inning to inning. Look at what machine umpiring has done for Tennis. The strike zone should be the strike zone.