2021 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread

[Arn]

I'm hoping that the youthfulness will lead to fearlessness, allied with the little bit of swagger that some of those guys have been showing. That'll let them play loose and without pressure and maybe claim a few extra wins than  maybe they would otherwise

All I'm saying is I personally won't really be tying my idea of a successful season to wins and losses. The rotation could be a mess, the bullpen is a question mark...this team could win any number of games and I wouldn't be terribly surprised.

Fair.

Don't disagree. Could even end up with a losing season if things go wrong.

But it's nice to be excited, and it's nice to have hope, and it's nice to see a longer term plan in place.

Let me enjoy my opening day optimism. Enough of your realism.  ;D

 

[Kin]

Let me enjoy my opening day optimism. Enough of your realism.  ;D

Oh by all means be optimistic. If someone thinks this team could win 92 games and easily make the playoffs, I can see how that might happen. There are lots of possibilities here, most of them good. And, of course, as the late, great Yogi Berra said "You never know".

 

[L K]

Mets-Nationals game postponed due to COVID

 

[Highlander]

It's important to remember that this is still such a young team. Last year's unexpected success was great but honestly this year I'm really more focused on individual development then needing them to win right away. Seeing Guerrero take a step forward, Pearson be anything close to his potential, the gawd Alejandro Kirk fulfill his destiny as the best catcher in baseball...that's this season for me.

Agreed, thy remind me of the Leafs of last year, not there yet but full of promise.  Leafs added some great vets and look poised to start a 3 or 4 year window (hopefully longer).  Jays added some good pieces but I don't expect a W.S this year.  Next year I believe the window opens for a 3-5 year run. 

 

[bustaheims]

Mets-Nationals game postponed due to COVID

Season's off to a great start!

 

[L K]

Can we get robot umps for the strikezone already....

 

[Arn]

Only another 89 wins to go to hit my target!

 

[Kin]

It's funny, for a while here the conversations was about how terribly the Jays mismanaged the Donaldson thing and were idiots for trading him when they did and how little they got back.

Fastforward a year or two and Cleveland got nothing out of that deal and Merryweather looks like he might be a legit closer.

 

[bustaheims]

It's funny, for a while here the conversations was about how terribly the Jays mismanaged the Donaldson thing and were idiots for trading him when they did and how little they got back.

Fastforward a year or two and Cleveland got nothing out of that deal and Merryweather looks like he might be a legit closer.

Time makes fools of us all.

 

[Kin]

It's funny, for a while here the conversations was about how terribly the Jays mismanaged the Donaldson thing and were idiots for trading him when they did and how little they got back.

Fastforward a year or two and Cleveland got nothing out of that deal and Merryweather looks like he might be a legit closer.

Time makes fools of us all.

Not me. Always right about everything. Past, present and future.

 

[L K]

Two outings don't make a career but if you are going to have two innings like that I'm going to stand up and pay attention.  Being able to hit 100 while having a nasty offspeed pitch sitting at 79-82 is the kind of stuff that is unhittable if you can locate it and sometimes even when you don't.

 

[Joe S.]

Watching Roark pitch is like playing a video game on rookie mode.

 

[Highlander]

Roark the Dork.  He is well past his best before label. 24 million for 2 years of spam in a can.

 

[L K]

The biggest issue with Roark I found was last year when he was complaining about not being allowed to go deeper into games.  He was bad last year and the few times he got to 3rd time around the order he got lit up.

Roark's career numbers against the AL aren't good either.  Granted Interleague is a small sample size but his nubmers were noticeably worse even before last year. 

He's a guy who doesn't throw hard, doesn't have great movement on his pitches and doesn't really having great accuracy.  I think he's done with the Jays.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

Man, the Jays are kicking the Angels 14-1 in the 5th.

 

[Joe S.]

15 runs , 14 hits and rowdy tellez still went 0-5. He?s on a hitless tear going 0-21 to start the season.

 

[Deebo]

Guerrero is off to a great start.

 

[Frank E]

We'll see what Ray looks like...I feel like this is a big deal of a start given the Roark situation.

 

[Highlander]

Good Roark is out of the rotation, should be off the team in my estimation.  Bit concerned about Rowdy, I really like the guy and his story, but he has to hit.

 

[L K]

Obviously you can't ride a guy on an indefinite hitless streak but it seems odd how quickly people turn on him.  He's not an exceptional player by any means but he had a really good season last year.  He had a nice cup of tea in his rookie campaign and then had a very mediocre true rookie season the following year.  His bat is still slightly above average on his career despite an abysmal start to this season.