2022 Blue Jays

[Kin]

He?s pretty much a negative when he?s on base. I don?t like him. If they can spin him into something that?s great but I won?t miss him.

He slashed .318/.416/.509 in the minors. That's going to have value no matter how slow a guy is.

 

[bustaheims]

He slashed .318/.416/.509 in the minors. That's going to have value no matter how slow a guy is.

Yup. His speed matters a lot less than that of the guys batting ahead of him. If he's creating opportunities for offence near that level, he's a valuable piece. The question is really about how much faith you have in him translating those numbers to the big league level, and I'm not completely sold on that.

 

[Joe S.]

He slashed .318/.416/.509 in the minors. That's going to have value no matter how slow a guy is.

Yup. His speed matters a lot less than that of the guys batting ahead of him. If he's creating opportunities for offence near that level, he's a valuable piece. The question is really about how much faith you have in him translating those numbers to the big league level, and I'm not completely sold on that.

If he hits a double he?s not in scoring position.

Whatever. The Jays have him, if he does well great, but I?m not a fan.

 

[bustaheims]

He slashed .318/.416/.509 in the minors. That's going to have value no matter how slow a guy is.

Yup. His speed matters a lot less than that of the guys batting ahead of him. If he's creating opportunities for offence near that level, he's a valuable piece. The question is really about how much faith you have in him translating those numbers to the big league level, and I'm not completely sold on that.

If he hits a double he?s not in scoring position.

Whatever. The Jays have him, if he does well great, but I?m not a fan.

Sure, but if that double drives in 2 runs, does that matter most of the time? So, he can't score on a softly hit single. Lots of guys can't - especially guys that play his position.

 

[Kin]

He slashed .318/.416/.509 in the minors. That's going to have value no matter how slow a guy is.

Yup. His speed matters a lot less than that of the guys batting ahead of him. If he's creating opportunities for offence near that level, he's a valuable piece. The question is really about how much faith you have in him translating those numbers to the big league level, and I'm not completely sold on that.

Me either to be honest. But the 162 game average of just what he's done in the big leagues so far has him as, like, a 2-3 win player as is just on the strength of his bat. If he gets even a little better and can be a 25 double/25 HR catcher playing passable defense he's a very valuable piece.

 

[Deebo]

Kirk, Groshans, Gurriell+ another prospect or two not named Moreno or Martinez. I don't know if can get you Ramirez, but it can you something.

If they are actually still talking about Ramirez, that suggests they are still open to adding and impact player. I think a package like above can land you an something pretty good, if not Ramierez.

 

[dappleganger]

Kirk would actually be a speed upgrade over the Guardians Austin Hedges.  ;D

 

[Frank E]

How do we feel about the bullpen?

 

[Highlander]

How do we feel about the bullpen?

I like it a lot, some good back up options if one or two go down with injury.  I have been very impressed with Bird as a LH hitter. Hope he sticks and stays healthy.

 

[Joe S.]

How do we feel about the bullpen?

A lot better than last season but it could always be improved.

 

[Frank E]

How do we feel about the bullpen?

A lot better than last season but it could always be improved.

Thanks Joe.

 

[Joe S.]

I feel mocked. Was that mockery? Was I mocked? Definitely sensing mockery.

 

[Joe S.]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1507038855152783371?t=TfxMJIiL4I-TJHyKTBPVGA&s=08

 

[Frank E]

I feel mocked. Was that mockery? Was I mocked? Definitely sensing mockery.

Sometimes thanks is just thanks...sometimes.

 

[Kin]

The Jays traded Grichuk to Colorado for Raimel Tapia. I assume this is a cost saving move as Tapia is a pretty bad hitter and not very useful defensively. He's got some speed and is a lefty off the bench so it does add some elements, I guess.

 

[Bender]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1507038855152783371?t=TfxMJIiL4I-TJHyKTBPVGA&s=08

Is this good or bad?

 

[dappleganger]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1507038855152783371?t=TfxMJIiL4I-TJHyKTBPVGA&s=08

I approve of this.

 

[dappleganger]

The Jays traded Grichuk to Colorado for Raimel Tapia. I assume this is a cost saving move as Tapia is a pretty bad hitter and not very useful defensively. He's got some speed and is a lefty off the bench so it does add some elements, I guess.

Had the same fWAR as Grichuk last year.

But yeah, frees up money to bring in Ketel Marte.  ;D

 

[Bill_Berg]

The Jays traded Grichuk to Colorado for Raimel Tapia. I assume this is a cost saving move as Tapia is a pretty bad hitter and not very useful defensively. He's got some speed and is a lefty off the bench so it does add some elements, I guess.

Had the same fWAR as Grichuk last year.

But yeah, frees up money to bring in Ketel Marte.  ;D

He is a career .280 hitter and hit .273 last year. Not a lot of power, but a 'bad hitter'?

 

[Deebo]

The Jays traded Grichuk to Colorado for Raimel Tapia. I assume this is a cost saving move as Tapia is a pretty bad hitter and not very useful defensively. He's got some speed and is a lefty off the bench so it does add some elements, I guess.

Had the same fWAR as Grichuk last year.

But yeah, frees up money to bring in Ketel Marte.  ;D

He is a career .280 hitter and hit .273 last year. Not a lot of power, but a 'bad hitter'?

Average isn't really used to evalute hitters any more. There are better stats that tell a more complete picture of a hitter. According to those, he's been a well below average hitter last season and the majority of his carreer.