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2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

Joe S. said:
I get that but it still felt shady.
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Sure. Would have felt much more shady if he got a job with the Flyers (or any team, really) than with the league, though. At least they didn't try to void his contract because of it. Cap hit still had to be LTIR'd somewhere.
 
GhostofPotvin29 said:
Yeah I mean he’s a 21 year old who’s been passed over in the draft (twice?) and plays on a powerhouse team. I don’t think it’s anything worth worrying about.
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Yup. Like, goalies are voodoo and all, but, lots of players in his situation have turned out to be nothing special. The odds against him becoming more than organizational depth are long and not worth fretting about the fact he didn't get an invite to a development camp.
 
yeah.... 1 year of a similar performance in Florida or Boston in the Playoffs for Marchand as a Leaf and no one would even care about his speed.

Plus he won't eliminate the Leafs from the Playoffs for the 6th time...
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1935612468857888885
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Suter isn't actually all that slow. He's an average skater with a quick mind and a quick stick. He may not have great speed bursts, but his hockey IQ is strong and he doesn't find himself out of position defensively all that much. Pair him with a couple quick wingers who forecheck hard and you have the makings of a strong 3rd line that can shut down the other team and chip in offensively.

Marchment, on the other hand, I have no interest in. Unless the Leafs' skills team can work more magic on him, his speed can be a real issue in the team's top 6.
 
Kaberle15 said:
yeah.... 1 year of a similar performance in Florida or Boston in the Playoffs for Marchand as a Leaf and no one would even care about his speed.

Plus he won't eliminate the Leafs from the Playoffs for the 6th time...
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He's not talking about Marchand. Marchand is a good skater. It's Marchment, who is supposedly on the trade block, that he's talking about there.
 
I feel like the time to sign Suter would have been two years ago. The team desperately needed a 3C then too and he hung around unsigned until August 11 and signed for a fraction of what he'll get now. I suspect he'll be one of the more overpaid players this July now, especially with the lack of centres. Good player though.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Pretty mediocre playoff history too, especially for a guy you would think would thrive in playoff hockey.
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He's also not particularly inclined to play a heavy-type physical game, despite his size and his lineage. When he tries that in the playoffs, it clearly takes away from his production.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1935612468857888885
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This isn't about the Leafs but one thing I wish the NHL Edge page did was list the average top skating speed (like with the top-5 or 10 marks) as opposed to just the highest mark they achieved that season. Like Pacioretty hit a top skating speed of 22.45 mph which is super good especially for a guy his age, but I mean that's not representative of his skating ability at all. He must have been getting some serious down wind on that rush or something.

Really cool and interesting data, but unsurprisingly the NHL isn't really the best place to present analysis from it. Would be great if they opened it up so others could do more things with it. Also their "speed bursts over 20" thing should really be presented on a per game or minute basis.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
This isn't about the Leafs but one thing I wish the NHL Edge page did was list the average top skating speed (like with the top-5 or 10 marks) as opposed to just the highest mark they achieved that season. Like Pacioretty hit a top skating speed of 22.45 mph which is super good especially for a guy his age, but I mean that's not representative of his skating ability at all. He must have been getting some serious down wind on that rush or something.

Really cool and interesting data, but unsurprisingly the NHL isn't really the best place to present analysis from it. Would be great if they opened it up so others could do more things with it. Also their "speed bursts over 20" thing should really be presented on a per game or minute basis.
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I recall hearing the NHLPA had some grumblings about this data being readily available. Players didn't want to be embarrassed and didn't want this to be applicable in contract talks, so the data is 'sanitized' to just show peaks in the set.

Teams that truly care to know have access to the data + copious video; fans just get to go off their memories and biases.
 
herman said:
I recall hearing the NHLPA had some grumblings about this data being readily available. Players didn't want to be embarrassed and didn't want this to be applicable in contract talks, so the data is 'sanitized' to just show peaks in the set.

Teams that truly care to know have access to the data + copious video; fans just get to go off their memories and biases.
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Tell the players to get gud.
 
Deebo said:
The CBA lists an arrangement like this as an example of cap circumvention.
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How can the league argue against it. Tavares says he is willing to take less to stay home at the end of his career. Once over in whatever capacity he decisdes to take on within the organization they pay him maybe more than what they should. How can the league prove it's wrongdoing? Does his salary even have to become public if he works as a scout, or assistant coach or GM, or something else in management etc etc?
 
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