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All aboard the band wagon... were playoff bound.

Mot the Barber said:
Were playoff bound?  Why is this in the past tense?
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Nutman no english good.

Mot the Barber said:
Also, you guys are actually proud?  After nearly 10 years, after every other team has made the playoffs at least once in the time-period, after Detroit has won nearly 60 playoff games and 1 Stanley Cup, you guys are proud of this?
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I'm happy, not proud. It's fun to watch your team in the playoffs but it's not an accomplishment of mine so I can't take any pride in it. They could win 8 Stanley Cups in a row and, again, there'd be nothing for me to be proud of. Supporting a sports team really isn't about pride but, rather, enjoyment. 

Mot the Barber said:
Do you even see how pathetic this is?  No wonder there is no incentive to win in this town.  You, as fans, hold nobody to account when presented with a decade long failure.
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Well, A) as fans we have no power to hold anybody to account and B) the Leafs failure over those years has resulted in several people, multiple GMs and Coaches among them, losing their jobs. What more could we, as accountability demanding fans, ask for? 

Mot the Barber said:
Sorry if this is going to be perceived as negative.
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Don't worry. Incoherent, yes. Poorly reasoned, sure. Negative? Eh.
 
Mot the Barber said:
I apologize if I offended you, I'm sure most of you are great people outside of your utter failures as fans, but I'm not calling your characters into question.  I'm calling your fanship logic into question.
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Seems all above board to me.

 
From what I understood of that post, our failure as fans of a (recently) bad team was to be fans, since by not quitting on them we sapped the team of motivation.

That's a lot to put on someone who watches guys play hockey from a remote location.
 
As Montreal fans are quick to point out, the Leafs have failed to win the holy grail.  But that does not mean the Leafs have been totally unsuccessful.  Montreal won the Cup way back in 1993, but it's the Leafs who were in the most playoff rounds between 1993-1994.  In fact, I'm not sure there's been a Canadian team that's been in more playoff rounds since 1993 onwards, even given the long drought the Leafs have recently suffered.  The last 10 year comment is typical of the negative bull that is continuously talked about.  If the failures are to be pointed out, let's not forget the successes as well. 
The greatest failure of the last decade for the Leafs has been their success.  They had the money, they spent the money.
Before the 2004-05 lock-out, the Leafs had five players on their playoff roster who are now in the Hockey Hall of Fame.  (Mats Sundin, Joe Nieuwendyk, Ed Belfour, Brian Leetch, Ron Francis)  They also had some other core players in Gary Roberts, Alexander, Nik Antropov, Darcy Tucker, Bryan McCabe, Mikael Renberg, Robert Reichel, Thomas Kaberle.  But then the Salary Cap came in.  They say the Leafs can't draft... well they hadn't had a top 9 draft pick in 15 years to that point!
While many who-care teams foolishly stumbled into success by failing, the Leafs success came from money.  Funny that now that the playing field has now been leveled, fans of other teams are still jealous. 
The Leafs were put in a position that was worst then being an expansion team.  Not only did they have to build a team, but had to dismantle one as well.  It's taken time.  It's been frustrating for the fans.  But like a planted seed, the most excitement is when you finally see that first sprout.  The Leafs are now reborn.  And I for one am proud. 
I have no expectations for the Leafs now.  They're too young and inconsistent to put it altogether.  But if they can find a way for every player to hit his stride at the same time, nobody knows how good they can be.
 
Mot the Barber said:
Were playoff bound?  Why is this in the past tense?

Also, you guys are actually proud?  After nearly 10 years, after every other team has made the playoffs at least once in the time-period, after Detroit has won nearly 60 playoff games and 1 Stanley Cup, you guys are proud of this? 

Do you even see how pathetic this is?  No wonder there is no incentive to win in this town.  You, as fans, hold nobody to account when presented with a decade long failure. 

Sorry if this is going to be perceived as negative.  But, believe me, you are being perceived as fools by most of the outside world.
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LOL, you mad bro?
 
Mot the Barber said:
AtomicMapleLeaf said:
Mot the Barber said:
Were playoff bound?  Why is this in the past tense?

Also, you guys are actually proud?  After nearly 10 years, after every other team has made the playoffs at least once in the time-period, after Detroit has won nearly 60 playoff games and 1 Stanley Cup, you guys are proud of this? 

Do you even see how pathetic this is?  No wonder there is no incentive to win in this town.  You, as fans, hold nobody to account when presented with a decade long failure. 

Sorry if this is going to be perceived as negative.  But, believe me, you are being perceived as fools by most of the outside world.
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So?
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Just saying.  It makes me angry that Leafs fans cause this team's failure. I want them to succeed, but it isn't going to happen with unconditional fanship. 

So.  I came here to express my frustration at the worst culprits of this phenomenon. 

I apologize if I offended you, I'm sure most of you are great people outside of your utter failures as fans, but I'm not calling your characters into question.  I'm calling your fanship logic into question.
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I wonder if this was in a reverse scenario , if the Leafs were successful in last 9 years , would the fan base shrink because it would be like a release after winning a cup but thats another story about the parallel universe.  ::)
 
Mot the Barber said:
Oh! And I forgot another thing.  The only way this pathetic team could qualify for the playoffs was in this idiotic shortened season with a million injuries all over the league.  It also happens to be the year that every Eastern team sh*t the bed and sucked donkey arse.  The Leafs weren't good enough to make the playoffs, it's just that every other team sucked enough to let them in.
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My brain, it hurts.
 
I agree somewhat with the sentiment of Starfleet's finest barber. The Leafs have a million issues with their game, and they really aren't that good of a team. I believe the shortened season did work to their benefit, and that continuing to play this way won't yield the same results in a full 82 game schedule.

That being said, who cares? They made the playoffs. They ended the drought. That can only be viewed as a good thing.
They get to experience a playoff atmosphere, play some meaningful games, and possibly have some success. They can attempt to iron out some of their issues in the off season, and bring the experience they will get to the table next year. There really is nowhere to go but up.

The idea though, that the fans are responsible for the problems this franchise has faced and will face, is ridiculous.
 
Like Carlyle said last night, the Leafs found a way to win. There is no trick to it. It's all legit. They didn't get lucky or have the refs on their side. They haven't fooled teams 25 times for wins this year. They have won the games and they deserve to be where they are... in the playoffs. As Leaf fans we may always be expecting the roof to fall in on us. I see a hungry, young team that may shake a few teams up in the post season by playing inspired hockey.   
 
I don't think the reality of this is going to sink in until I actually get to sit down and watch a Leafs playoff game.
 
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