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Andreas Johnsson re-ssigned 1 year, two-way @ 787.5k (Qualifying Offer Accepted)

Deebo said:
Just made a quick edit to you title herman, to indicate that this was his QO.

Is this now the longest thread title in the history of this site?

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CarltonTheBear said:
Almost certainly the best decision for Johnsson.

Not the best decision for the Leafs though.  I'd assume they were offering a 2 year deal at similar money.  They kinda needed that cost certainty for next year.  Him and his agent are banking on a good year in the NHL will lead to more money next season, and that might mean moving him or someone else (Brown, Hyman, or Kapanen) to keep the core together.
 
Frank E said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Almost certainly the best decision for Johnsson.

For Johnsson, probably.  For us fans, probably not.

I mean, yes and no I suppose. As much as I like Johnsson the odds of him coming in and scoring 50 points, or I mean even 40 points in his rookie season is pretty slim. So at least this way the team gets a better look at him for a year and they'll be in a position to negotiate a longer term deal after just 1 year of NHL service. If they negotiated a longer term deal after 2 years of NHL service he could have had more evidence to justify a more expensive deal.

Personally speaking I would have tried to get him at a reasonable rate for 4+ years, but if the options were only 1 or 2 then I think 1 is the safer bet.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Frank E said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Almost certainly the best decision for Johnsson.

For Johnsson, probably.  For us fans, probably not.

I mean, yes and no I suppose. As much as I like Johnsson the odds of him coming in and scoring 50 points, or I mean even 40 points in his rookie season is pretty slim. So at least this way the team gets a better look at him for a year and they'll be in a position to negotiate a longer term deal after just 1 year of NHL service. If they negotiated a longer term deal after 2 years of NHL service he could have had more evidence to justify a more expensive deal.

Personally speaking I would have tried to get him at a reasonable rate for 4+ years, but if the options were only 1 or 2 then I think 1 is the safer bet.

I do feel like 35-40 pts is realistic for him.  Mostly because they seem to already be playing him on the PP in the high slot and I don't think they are going to change that.  That assumes, of course, he's playing with Kadri and not on the 4th line at 5v5.  That output pretty much got Brown a 2M deal with only 1 full year of service. 

I do see your point though, if he has 2 seasons of that production he may be worth more on that next deal BUT our cap crunch is next year.  I would have rather have given him a 1Mx2 deal now.
 
I await for next Friday's Maple Leafs press release that the big 3 have all signed 8 year extensions.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Personally speaking I would have tried to get him at a reasonable rate for 4+ years, but if the options were only 1 or 2 then I think 1 is the safer bet.

Same, so i'm a bit disappointed. I'd have liked them gamble a bit on Johnsson... he fits the mould of what the team is building.. skilled, fast, and can play pretty much anywhere in the lineup. I was hoping for a 4 year deal at about 1.8.
 
Frycer14 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Personally speaking I would have tried to get him at a reasonable rate for 4+ years, but if the options were only 1 or 2 then I think 1 is the safer bet.

Same, so i'm a bit disappointed. I'd have liked them gamble a bit on Johnsson... he fits the mould of what the team is building.. skilled, fast, and can play pretty much anywhere in the lineup. I was hoping for a 4 year deal at about 1.8.

Yeah but would he take that? I probably wouldn't if I were him.
 
Bender said:
Frycer14 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Personally speaking I would have tried to get him at a reasonable rate for 4+ years, but if the options were only 1 or 2 then I think 1 is the safer bet.

Same, so i'm a bit disappointed. I'd have liked them gamble a bit on Johnsson... he fits the mould of what the team is building.. skilled, fast, and can play pretty much anywhere in the lineup. I was hoping for a 4 year deal at about 1.8.

Yeah but would he take that? I probably wouldn't if I were him.

I was hoping 1.67mx2. That would get through the 19-20 season at a reasonable number. If he has even Connor Brown's or Zach Hyman's rookie year, which wouldn't shock me if he's on Kadri's wing and playing weak competition, then he's getting a healthy raise when space is going to be very tight.
 
Frycer14 said:
he fits the mould of what the team is building.. skilled, fast, and can play pretty much anywhere in the lineup.

Which is why signing him to a 4 year deal at a pretty low salary really wouldn't have been much of a gamble on the Leafs part and probably wasn't very attractive for him.

I like Johnsson but he's another guy who I feel like should be somewhat disposable if any of the Leafs' prospect depth on wing comes through. My only real regret here is they couldn't sign him to a multi-year deal so that if he does go and have a really solid season he'd be a pretty valuable trade chip.

 
Nik the Trik said:
Frycer14 said:
he fits the mould of what the team is building.. skilled, fast, and can play pretty much anywhere in the lineup.

Which is why signing him to a 4 year deal at a pretty low salary really wouldn't have been much of a gamble on the Leafs part and probably wasn't very attractive for him.

I like Johnsson but he's another guy who I feel like should be somewhat disposable if any of the Leafs' prospect depth on wing comes through. My only real regret here is they couldn't sign him to a multi-year deal so that if he does go and have a really solid season he'd be a pretty valuable trade chip.

OTOH he could be just the kind of guy who breaks out a la Kucherov. (OK, very likely not to that level ... but he's got the tools and has shown he can score in Sweden and the Marlies.) 
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
OTOH he could be just the kind of guy who breaks out a la Kucherov. (OK, very likely not to that level ... but he's got the tools and has shown he can score in Sweden and the Marlies.)

That's not really on the other hand. If Johnsson turns out to be a good player that'd be fine and dandy but it doesn't change what situation the Leafs are in with regards to the big 4 forwards they need to pay. The better that Johnsson is, the harder it'll be to keep him.
 
Coco-puffs said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Frank E said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Almost certainly the best decision for Johnsson.

For Johnsson, probably.  For us fans, probably not.

I mean, yes and no I suppose. As much as I like Johnsson the odds of him coming in and scoring 50 points, or I mean even 40 points in his rookie season is pretty slim. So at least this way the team gets a better look at him for a year and they'll be in a position to negotiate a longer term deal after just 1 year of NHL service. If they negotiated a longer term deal after 2 years of NHL service he could have had more evidence to justify a more expensive deal.

Personally speaking I would have tried to get him at a reasonable rate for 4+ years, but if the options were only 1 or 2 then I think 1 is the safer bet.

I do feel like 35-40 pts is realistic for him.  Mostly because they seem to already be playing him on the PP in the high slot and I don't think they are going to change that.  That assumes, of course, he's playing with Kadri and not on the 4th line at 5v5.  That output pretty much got Brown a 2M deal with only 1 full year of service. 

I do see your point though, if he has 2 seasons of that production he may be worth more on that next deal BUT our cap crunch is next year.  I would have rather have given him a 1Mx2 deal now.
Yes me too, but do not underestimate the Swedish Dude.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
OTOH he could be just the kind of guy who breaks out a la Kucherov. (OK, very likely not to that level ... but he's got the tools and has shown he can score in Sweden and the Marlies.)

That's not really on the other hand. If Johnsson turns out to be a good player that'd be fine and dandy but it doesn't change what situation the Leafs are in with regards to the big 4 forwards they need to pay. The better that Johnsson is, the harder it'll be to keep him.

I meant with respect to being somewhat disposable.  Unless of course somebody below him breaks out, uh, like Kucherov.
 

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