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Armchair GM 2016-2017

CarltonTheBear said:
I think that as things stand right now, the Leafs will protect the following players: Kadri, JVR, Bozak, Komarov, Martin, Brown, Leipsic, Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick, Andersen

That would leave the following players exposed: Horton, Lupul, Holland, Rychel, Leivo, Marincin, Loov, Corrado. With the assumption that Lupul, Holland, and Marincin all meet the GP requirement.

The only one I might miss if he continues to develop is Marincin.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I think that as things stand right now, the Leafs will protect the following players: Kadri, JVR, Bozak, Komarov, Martin, Brown, Leipsic, Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick, Andersen

That would leave the following players exposed: Horton, Lupul, Holland, Rychel, Leivo, Marincin, Loov, Corrado. With the assumption that Lupul, Holland, and Marincin all meet the GP requirement.

I was actually wondering if the Leafs would expose Bozak June 2017 and run Kadri and Matthews 17/18.

If not then I would expect the list to be as you put it.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
That would leave the following players exposed: Horton, Lupul, Holland, Rychel, Leivo, Marincin, Loov, Corrado. With the assumption that Lupul, Holland, and Marincin all meet the GP requirement.

Which GP requirement? The only GP requirement I know of is that a couple of exposed players have to exceed a GP total but not all of them do.
 
Nik the Trik said:
CarltonTheBear said:
That would leave the following players exposed: Horton, Lupul, Holland, Rychel, Leivo, Marincin, Loov, Corrado. With the assumption that Lupul, Holland, and Marincin all meet the GP requirement.

Which GP requirement? The only GP requirement I know of is that a couple of exposed players have to exceed a GP total but not all of them do.

2 FW and 1 D have to meet the requirement (which is 40 GP in last season or 70 GP in last 2 seasons, so basically pray Lupul plays at least 24 games this season...)
 
One crazy move I'd probably pull the trigger on is Nylander for Trouba.

Jets get a potential future 1/2C to develop with Laine.  We shore up our top 4 D.

Rielly-Trouba
Gardiner-Zaitsev

We have Matthews and Kadri as our 1 & 2C.  They have Scheifle and Nylander.
 
No chance, Marner, Nylander and Matthews are the holy trinity that are going to lead us back to the promised land.

Andreas Johnson, Travis Dermott and a good pick should get it done.

 
I don't think that Trouba has a high enough upside that you'd want to trade Nylander for him.

I doubt any sort of package where Dermott is the most valuable asset gets it done. This is where the Leafs not holding onto their late first round picks/reaching with their high seconds the last two years hurts them. They don't really have any of those A-/B+ sort of prospects outside of maybe Kapanen. If they had a Konecny or Gabriel Carlsson or someone like that it may be the basis of an offer
 
Nik the Trik said:
I don't think that Trouba has a high enough upside that you'd want to trade Nylander for him.

I doubt any sort of package where Dermott is the most valuable asset gets it done. This is where the Leafs not holding onto their late first round picks/reaching with their high seconds the last two years hurts them. They don't really have any of those A-/B+ sort of prospects outside of maybe Kapanen. If they had a Konecny or Gabriel Carlsson or someone like that it may be the basis of an offer

Kapanen and Dermott might not be too bad an offer for Winnipeg to chew on for Trouba.
 
RedLeaf said:
Kapanen and Dermott might not be too bad an offer for Winnipeg to chew on for Trouba.

Leaving aside whether or not that's fair strictly on a balancing the scales sense I think it's sort of a uniquely bad fit for the Jets. Dermott is at least a couple years away and the Jets have used their top pick in each of the last three years(#9, #17 and #2) on guys who figure to primarily be scoring wingers.

Remember that Winnipeg was a playoff team a year ago. I think it would be an abrupt change of course for them to be willing to trade a good, young NHL defenseman for guys who realistically don't help them for a few years at best.

There's an article on NHLnumbers about the possibility of the Leafs trading for Trouba(which makes the case that you'd probably need Marner or Nylander in the deal) that has this tweet:

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And if you click on that Lawless' profile he seems to be pretty sure the Jets are looking for defensive help right now on the left side. Last year I floated the idea of Travis Hamonic being someone who might interest the Jets and I do think that's the kind of player you need to include in a trade like this. Let's keep in mind though that what happened with Drouin last year is pretty solid evidence that asking for a trade doesn't necessarily lead to one if the team doesn't get offers they like.
 
What an asinine request from the Jets. Same age, position and calibre? What team would make that trade? Another team in a similar position with that particular type of defensemen requesting a trade as well? Good luck Jets!
 
Can someone elucidate me on the allure of Trouba?

Checks: young, RHD, Rielly-esque numbers
Nopes: looking mildly expensive, Rielly-esque numbers against lesser opponents

Is he worth the princely ransom the Jets have outlined?
 
herman said:
Can someone elucidate me on the allure of Trouba?

Checks: young, RHD, Rielly-esque numbers
Nopes: looking mildly expensive, Rielly-esque numbers against lesser opponents

Is he worth the princely ransom the Jets have outlined?

This article/tweet by Garret Hohl at JetsNation might be helpful: http://jetsnation.ca/2016/6/6/don-t-let-point-totals-fool-you-trouba-has-been-getting-better-and-better

Garret Hohl ‏@GarretHohl  16 hours ago
Stuart last 2yrs:
w/ Trouba: 51% Corsi, 45% Goals
w/o Trouba: 45% Corsi, 47% Goals
Trouba w/o: 55% Corsi, 63% Goals
 
I was wondering if it was Gardiner that they would target as a LD who is on a reasonable $4 MIL contract.  Add a Kapanen and it might close the deal.

That leaves a hole on the Leafs LD so I would try to get Lindholm, another RFA holdout.  JVR would be the center piece.  A young dman like Corrado would be added as well as a 2nd prospect.

That would leave Rielly, Trouba and Lindholm as the dmen the Leafs protect in the Las Vegas expansion draft
 
Britishbulldog said:
I was wondering if it was Gardiner that they would target as a LD who is on a reasonable $4 MIL contract.  Add a Kapanen and it might close the deal.

That leaves a hole on the Leafs LD so I would try to get Lindholm, another RFA holdout.  JVR would be the center piece.  A young dman like Corrado would be added as well as a 2nd prospect.

That would leave Rielly, Trouba and Lindholm as the dmen the Leafs protect in the Las Vegas expansion draft

haha beat me to it...
 
I like the jvr for lindholm idea also but isn't anahem an internal cap team.

Is there a salary dump that toronto could take back in that deal?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
This article/tweet by Garret Hohl at JetsNation might be helpful: http://jetsnation.ca/2016/6/6/don-t-let-point-totals-fool-you-trouba-has-been-getting-better-and-better

Garret Hohl ‏@GarretHohl  16 hours ago
Stuart last 2yrs:
w/ Trouba: 51% Corsi, 45% Goals
w/o Trouba: 45% Corsi, 47% Goals
Trouba w/o: 55% Corsi, 63% Goals

Fantastic. Thanks, Carlton.

So he's already good despite his wonky deployment, and still very early in his development curve. > or < than Seth Jones?

I don't see a match with the Leafs in terms of trading partners, nor do I want the Leafs to traipse down the path of rushing things by forcing multiple moves to accommodate an opportunity that still qualifies as a gamble at this stage in our rebuild.
 
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