Armchair GM 2018-2019

[Guilt Trip]

I can agree with that. Ignoring his contract, 16 goals and 37 points are pretty decent for a third line winger. I'll concede though, that he spent a decent amount of time as Matthew's winger.

So is 21 goals and 41 points good enough for a 1st line player then? I don't. As for the Marleau thing, if he's back, Babs needs to stress to him he will be on the 4th line. That's where he belongs at this stage of his career.

 

[Chris]

I can agree with that. Ignoring his contract, 16 goals and 37 points are pretty decent for a third line winger. I'll concede though, that he spent a decent amount of time as Matthew's winger.

So is 21 goals and 41 points good enough for a 1st line player then? I don't. As for the Marleau thing, if he's back, Babs needs to stress to him he will be on the 4th line. That's where he belongs at this stage of his career.

Problem is, he doesn't seem to be a good fit for the 4th line. He doesn't hit, he doesn't play with the kind of energy that Moore/Ennis bring, he doesn't create offense. If Gauthier is 4th line center again (and really, unless Dubas takes him away you know Babcock will put him there...you can't teach size) and you add Marleau...that's a recipe for a useless 4th line.

Probably his best place if he is still here will be 3rd line, if the center and RW (Kadri/Kapanen?) are good enough he won't be too much of a hindrance there. Best choice though is retirement.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I can agree with that. Ignoring his contract, 16 goals and 37 points are pretty decent for a third line winger. I'll concede though, that he spent a decent amount of time as Matthew's winger.

So is 21 goals and 41 points good enough for a 1st line player then? I don't. As for the Marleau thing, if he's back, Babs needs to stress to him he will be on the 4th line. That's where he belongs at this stage of his career.

Problem is, he doesn't seem to be a good fit for the 4th line. He doesn't hit, he doesn't play with the kind of energy that Moore/Ennis bring, he doesn't create offense. If Gauthier is 4th line center again (and really, unless Dubas takes him away you know Babcock will put him there...you can't teach size) and you add Marleau...that's a recipe for a useless 4th line.

Probably his best place if he is still here will be 3rd line, if the center and RW (Kadri/Kapanen?) are good enough he won't be too much of a hindrance there. Best choice though is retirement.

We can't have him retire because he'll count against the cap. I think the Leafs approach him to move on. As for him playing with Kadri and Kappy. Not even sure kadri will be back. Management might be done with him.

 

[Chris]

I can agree with that. Ignoring his contract, 16 goals and 37 points are pretty decent for a third line winger. I'll concede though, that he spent a decent amount of time as Matthew's winger.

So is 21 goals and 41 points good enough for a 1st line player then? I don't. As for the Marleau thing, if he's back, Babs needs to stress to him he will be on the 4th line. That's where he belongs at this stage of his career.

Problem is, he doesn't seem to be a good fit for the 4th line. He doesn't hit, he doesn't play with the kind of energy that Moore/Ennis bring, he doesn't create offense. If Gauthier is 4th line center again (and really, unless Dubas takes him away you know Babcock will put him there...you can't teach size) and you add Marleau...that's a recipe for a useless 4th line.

Probably his best place if he is still here will be 3rd line, if the center and RW (Kadri/Kapanen?) are good enough he won't be too much of a hindrance there. Best choice though is retirement.

We can't have him retire because he'll count against the cap. I think the Leafs approach him to move on. As for him playing with Kadri and Kappy. Not even sure kadri will be back. Management might be done with him.

Marleau can retire and they can trade his cap hit, I believe.

You might be right about Kadri and I really couldn't complain if they let him go. Really put the team in a hole the last 2 springs.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I can agree with that. Ignoring his contract, 16 goals and 37 points are pretty decent for a third line winger. I'll concede though, that he spent a decent amount of time as Matthew's winger.

So is 21 goals and 41 points good enough for a 1st line player then? I don't. As for the Marleau thing, if he's back, Babs needs to stress to him he will be on the 4th line. That's where he belongs at this stage of his career.

Problem is, he doesn't seem to be a good fit for the 4th line. He doesn't hit, he doesn't play with the kind of energy that Moore/Ennis bring, he doesn't create offense. If Gauthier is 4th line center again (and really, unless Dubas takes him away you know Babcock will put him there...you can't teach size) and you add Marleau...that's a recipe for a useless 4th line.

Probably his best place if he is still here will be 3rd line, if the center and RW (Kadri/Kapanen?) are good enough he won't be too much of a hindrance there. Best choice though is retirement.

We can't have him retire because he'll count against the cap. I think the Leafs approach him to move on. As for him playing with Kadri and Kappy. Not even sure kadri will be back. Management might be done with him.

Marleau can retire and they can trade his cap hit, I believe.

You might be right about Kadri and I really couldn't complain if they let him go. Really put the team in a hole the last 2 springs.

You're right. Detroit basically did it with Datsyuk.

 

[bustaheims]

You're right. Detroit basically did it with Datsyuk.

Datsyuk didn?t officially retire. He just left for Russia with the Wings? blessing. He was still technically an active player, he was just a non-roster player.

 

[bustaheims]

Marleau can retire and they can trade his cap hit, I believe.

Trade would have to come first. You can only trade a player on an active contract. Once Marleau retires, his contract would no longer be active.

 

[Bender]

Marleau can retire and they can trade his cap hit, I believe.

Trade would have to come first. You can only trade a player on an active contract. Once Marleau retires, his contract would no longer be active.

Hopefully Pridham/Dubas will come up with a creative solution here. The days of overvalued contracts (Nylander notwithstanding....) is over. We're going to have to sniff out some high value contracts. I really hope Sandin can make the jump next year.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Marleau can retire and they can trade his cap hit, I believe.

Trade would have to come first. You can only trade a player on an active contract. Once Marleau retires, his contract would no longer be active.

Hopefully Pridham/Dubas will come up with a creative solution here. The days of overvalued contracts (Nylander notwithstanding....) is over. We're going to have to sniff out some high value contracts. I really hope Sandin can make the jump next year.

Thx Busta for the clarification. I hope Liljegren is ready first. Our right side is in more desperate need at the moment. Without Gards we still have Muzz, Rielly, Rosen and Dermott.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1121430147834548225

Well that's that. I think if there was any chance he'd retire he would have said something like "I'll take a month to think about my future".

Also it's kind of crazy that a team like the Leafs didn't force Marleau to upgrade his antique equipment earlier.

 

[herman]

He tried it earlier and said it wasn?t comfortable with puck handling. Lol

 

[L K]

I mean I'm a beer league defenseman but when I finally bought a few new sticks I was shocked at how much better they were than the old two piece/wooden sticks I was playing with. 

I get being a creature of habit but I feel like a lot of what Marleau was doing didn't help him long-term.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I mean I'm a beer league defenseman but when I finally bought a few new sticks I was shocked at how much better they were than the old two piece/wooden sticks I was playing with. 

I get being a creature of habit but I feel like a lot of what Marleau was doing didn't help him long-term.

I tried to shoot once with a wooden stick and it nearly killed me.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I mean I'm a beer league defenseman but when I finally bought a few new sticks I was shocked at how much better they were than the old two piece/wooden sticks I was playing with. 

I get being a creature of habit but I feel like a lot of what Marleau was doing didn't help him long-term.

I tried to shoot once with a wooden stick and it nearly killed me.

Hahaha..Some of us grew up on wood sticks. They were heavy as hell and basically crap! It took a bit to get used to the flex in the new tech!

 

[herman]

If Marleau puts up 30 non-empty netters next year, will I be mad or sad?

 

[Bill_Berg]

https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1121430147834548225

Well that's that. I think if there was any chance he'd retire he would have said something like "I'll take a month to think about my future".

Also it's kind of crazy that a team like the Leafs didn't force Marleau to upgrade his antique equipment earlier.

In Toronto?

 

[Bender]

https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1121430147834548225

Well that's that. I think if there was any chance he'd retire he would have said something like "I'll take a month to think about my future".

Also it's kind of crazy that a team like the Leafs didn't force Marleau to upgrade his antique equipment earlier.

In Toronto?

Hopefully not!

 

[CarltonTheBear]

In Toronto?

Yeah there's literally no way around that I don't think.

 

[Guilt Trip]

In Toronto?

Yeah there's literally no way around that I don't think.

Unfortunately. He's going to have to be limited in ice time tho and never go above the bottom 6.

 

[Highlander]

In Toronto?

Yeah there's literally no way around that I don't think.

Unfortunately. He's going to have to be limited in ice time tho and never go above the bottom 6.

Better be on the 4th line with the Goat and Engvall