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At this point, what are your expectations of Schenn in his prime?

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ontariojames

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The once highly touted Schenn seems to have hit a road block in his development the last couple of years. Im curious to know what people here think his ceiling is and/or what they think he will ultimately develop into when he's reached his prime. I'm going to say that in his prime he will be a solid top four dman with average offensive abilities.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Anton Volchenkov/Adam Foote type.

His skating needs work, but he is young enough to fix it.
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I wonder how much a player can actually improve his speed, there seems to be differing opinions on it. Aside from technique, speed is all about fast twitch muscle fibres, and you would think that if people can significantly increase their vertical jump through explosive plyometric training then you should be able to train your muscles to significantly improve your skating speed. Yet, I never hear about players drastically improving their speed.
 
I'm not sure I see Foote just yet... Gleason was mentioned a few weeks back. Personally, I think that's fairer at this point... I hope he proves me wrong.
 
I'd say right now he is pretty much around the same level as Gleason and given his age i think there is more to come from him, in his prime with continued development, I see a Foote type potentially.  As for skating James, send him to the same school Tavares has been attending the past two seasons, the difference with him is night and day.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
I'd say right now he is pretty much around the same level as Gleason and given his age i think there is more to come from him, in his prime with continued development, I see a Foote type potentially.  As for skating James, send him to the same school Tavares has been attending the past two seasons, the difference with him is night and day.
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Is it really? I didn't know Tavares' skating had improved that much, that's interesting.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
I'd say right now he is pretty much around the same level as Gleason and given his age i think there is more to come from him, in his prime with continued development, I see a Foote type potentially.  As for skating James, send him to the same school Tavares has been attending the past two seasons, the difference with him is night and day.
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Offensively? I agree... Perhaps Schenn is already further ahead in that regards to Gleason. Though from what I know about both Schenn and Gleason, I'd say Schenn has some growing to do to match Gleason's poise with the puck in his own end. Though I admit, it's not like I've seen a ton of Gleason.
 
The man can't learn any more from a stagnant coach. But hey, if all knowing Brian Burke says he is one of the best coaches in the leagues, who I am to argue with him?

 
I don't know that anything much has changed for me with regards to Schenn. I think he's been brought along in just about the toughest situation possible for him and he's acquitted himself well enough.

I don't know if he reaches his peak here or elsewhere but I think it is very close to Foote but I really think he can put up 25-35 points with the right defensive partner. He's got good offensive instincts but no offensive skills.
 
Saint Nik said:
He's got good offensive instincts but no offensive skills.
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Finally someone was able to put this in a logical way.  I've often thought he makes some good offensive decisions but he just can't really finish them (other than the odd sweet offensive display like against Boston last season).
 
I think Schenn is a solid #4 defenceman.  For whatever reason, his skating seems worse this year then last year and I really think it has something to do with his off season conditioning program that was maybe focused too much on upper body muscle rather than leg/core strength.

I think of this goal last year, and realize that we havent seen anything close to this so far this season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bCcL_NHEdw
 
I think it's worth mentioning that, barring a terrible finish to the year, he's on pace to improve his point total for the 4th straight year since coming into the league.  Small advances but it's there.  He's T-3 in scoring from the defense while getting 0 PP-TOI per game (well he average 4 seconds per game which would have come almost entirely from a game or two of blowout hockey).  Cody Franson, who I love offensively, has 1 more point in 13 fewer games.  Liles has 4 more points in 14 fewer games. 

Schenn doesn't look like he's going to be a generational talent kind of player, but aside from some misguided draft-day claims, he was always compared as an Adam Foote clone who was maybe a little more physical.  I think if we are lucky, Schenn peaks as a post-lockout (the 94-95 one) Scott Stevens.  That was the point where Steven's offensive game declined from the guy who looked like he was going to be a prolific scorer and he became a mid 20s-30s offensive point production player who was a shut-down defender. 

I still think Schenn has that potential.  He needs to figure out the right offseason training regimen to improve his mobility but maximize his strength to play physical.  That's going to take time.
 
Bingo.  Schenn is a keeper, he just needs to meet the balance between strength and mobility so he doesn't keep getting burned in his own end.  Offence should definitely be an afterthought.
 
#1 draft choice???  Needs to improve his skating???(You don't improve your skating at this level, you better have had that skill before you got to the show).  No offensive skills???  Whatever he will look like in his prime, I hope its not with the Leafs. But sorry to say with his salary what it is and being no better than a 5 or 6th defensiveman, highly unlikely he is going anywhere. 
 
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