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Blackhawks @ Leafs - Jan. 18th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

lc9 said:
Guilt Trip said:
lc9 said:
Guilt Trip said:
lc9 said:
Guilt Trip said:
Bender said:
Andersen is sooooo bad. I don't know how you can blame the team on any of these. He gets beat on that shot routinely now. Jesus Christ.
Let's see bad bounce in the 1st goal. 2nd goal Toews walks in alone, 3rd goal Johnsson turns it over at the blueline and Saad walks in alone. So Freddie isn't exempt but there's plenty of blame to go around here.

Exhibit A.  No blame on Andersen allowed.
If you read asshat I said Freddie isn't exempt so piss off. Back to ignore for you.

Yet you have an excuse for every goal. 
and you're the most negative POS on this site. Like I said back to ignore for you. I wont be reading another post from you.

You don?t see your role in this.  This site has become so homer happy that anyone who criticizes the team  gets railroaded. 

Your Andersen post was a perfect example. 3 others criticized your assessment.  You came after me.


That's cause you're overboard negative. Leafs could be up 7-0 and if the other team makes it 7-1 you'll rant about the defence is AHL at best and Andersen should be playing in the ECHL
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
People, get a grip.  Andersen is 22-8-6, 2.80 GAA, .912 Sv%.  Not the best, but considering the defense in front of him the idea that he's a crappy goalie is just ludicrous.


He's been in a slide the last little while. You can't expect perfect defence and no chances against. Look at that first period, Leafs had plenty of chances to score but Crawford made saves.  Andersen has been way below his normal play lately. It seems any good chance goes in.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Let's not go overboard on the Andersen criticism but man, he doesn't look comfortable at all.
Sorry what do you consider overboard? The teams are playing 50/50 hockey but the score is not reflective of that.

Overboard are posters who claim that Andersen is lousy, period.  There are 2 or 3 on here and they always come out of the woodwork when he has a bad game, which no one is denying that this is.

I've always maintained he has been the teams MVP last 2-3 years. Way this team plays without the puck, amount of rubber he's faced, quality scoring chances we wouldn't have made the playoffs.
He's always had his ups and downs, streaks unfortunately in a rut right now.
Said it before backup hasn't been addressed and it's killing us.
What you supposed to do if your Keefe? As much as he turned his game around Hutchinson sucks. Dubas keeps waiting to do something but meanwhile we can't start anyone else.
 
Zee said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
People, get a grip.  Andersen is 22-8-6, 2.80 GAA, .912 Sv%.  Not the best, but considering the defense in front of him the idea that he's a crappy goalie is just ludicrous.


He's been in a slide the last little while. You can't expect perfect defence and no chances against. Look at that first period, Leafs had plenty of chances to score but Crawford made saves.  Andersen has been way below his normal play lately. It seems any good chance goes in.

I'm not denying that.  He's in a slump ... except for last game against CGY, when he was excellent.  But he's far and away the best goalie we've had since Belfour.
 
azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Let's not go overboard on the Andersen criticism but man, he doesn't look comfortable at all.
Sorry what do you consider overboard? The teams are playing 50/50 hockey but the score is not reflective of that.

Overboard are posters who claim that Andersen is lousy, period.  There are 2 or 3 on here and they always come out of the woodwork when he has a bad game, which no one is denying that this is.

I've always maintained he has been the teams MVP last 2-3 years. Way this team plays without the puck, amount of rubber he's faced, quality scoring chances we wouldn't have made the playoffs.
He's always had his ups and downs, streaks unfortunately in a rut right now.
Said it before backup hasn't been addressed and it's killing us.
What you supposed to do if your Keefe? As much as he turned his game around Hutchinson sucks. Dubas keeps waiting to do something but meanwhile we can't start anyone else.

Well said.
 
Chris said:
Andersen certainly isn't making those remarkable saves tonight, but geez...Leafs defensive zone coverage looks to have regressed. I remember saying a couple of weeks ago that I thought they had improved but they're committing more giveaways and having breakdowns. That said...I thought he should have had the second goal. Third goal, he was playing a bit deep but sometimes the shooter just beats the goalie. We see Matthews do that all the time.
Freddie def isn't saving their asses but like you said the mistakes seem to be getting worse. I think the loss of Muzzin has really thrown things out of whack. All the D pairings have been changed and now with Rielly out its D by committee. The fact is, if Marincin is our shutdown guy we're in serious trouble. We need the Muzz back.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Let's not go overboard on the Andersen criticism but man, he doesn't look comfortable at all.
Sorry what do you consider overboard? The teams are playing 50/50 hockey but the score is not reflective of that.

Overboard are posters who claim that Andersen is lousy, period.  There are 2 or 3 on here and they always come out of the woodwork when he has a bad game, which no one is denying that this is.

I've always maintained he has been the teams MVP last 2-3 years. Way this team plays without the puck, amount of rubber he's faced, quality scoring chances we wouldn't have made the playoffs.
He's always had his ups and downs, streaks unfortunately in a rut right now.
Said it before backup hasn't been addressed and it's killing us.
What you supposed to do if your Keefe? As much as he turned his game around Hutchinson sucks. Dubas keeps waiting to do something but meanwhile we can't start anyone else.

Well said.

I've been bashed for criticizing the contracts but that's part of the reason we are talking about this.
No room to do anything so has to be a trade. Sounds easy but maybe teams are asking too much, Dubas maybe doesn't want to part with some pieces.
Regardless something needs to be done with the backup situation and the D, plus start holding some of these forwards accountable because it's not just the D it's the team defence.
2 ends of the ice. Players aren't willing to do whatever then sit them down don't care who it is.
 

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