Blackhawks refused to report alleged sex abuse of players to police: source
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Kin
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You know, I've talked a lot about how Canadian hockey culture and it's emphasis on conformity and hierarchy tends to produce these charisma and personality-free hockeybots but in the past that was largely in the context of how it makes the sports boring to follow at times.
Now, however, I think we're seeing that one of the other by-products of it is there's a real lack of empathy in some of these guys too. All they know is the sport and framing everything in a "How does the team win more games?" context. An actual belief in collective good or brotherhood or team would put someone like Beach and what happened to him above winning. But it seems to be just another extension of corporate thinking where "loyalty", "teamwork" and any other seemingly collective concepts are really just upwardly focused buzzwords where they only have value to the extent that they can pressure people into doing what's good for the people above them.
Now, however, I think we're seeing that one of the other by-products of it is there's a real lack of empathy in some of these guys too. All they know is the sport and framing everything in a "How does the team win more games?" context. An actual belief in collective good or brotherhood or team would put someone like Beach and what happened to him above winning. But it seems to be just another extension of corporate thinking where "loyalty", "teamwork" and any other seemingly collective concepts are really just upwardly focused buzzwords where they only have value to the extent that they can pressure people into doing what's good for the people above them.
Bullfrog
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L K said:
With respect, LK, I think you're being a bit naive about this situation. Bettman's primary concern will likely be damage control. And while we're seeing the release of this report, I suspect quite highly the NHL had most of those facts already.
I could be wrong though.
Bullfrog
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I just finished reading the entire report. What a bunch of callous idiots.
My summary: sexual assault isn't that serious. We got games to win. Better to let an accused resign with bonus pay rather than investigate because that'd suck.
And man, the president McDonough really comes off bad. President of the organization waits 3+ weeks to report to the director of HR? (during which time Aldrich assaults a young Blackhawks employee) and after his resignation, they give him $22k in pay + a $15k playoff bonus AND let him celebrate with the team and have a personal day with the cup.
There also seems to be a whole lot of lack of recollection.
My summary: sexual assault isn't that serious. We got games to win. Better to let an accused resign with bonus pay rather than investigate because that'd suck.
And man, the president McDonough really comes off bad. President of the organization waits 3+ weeks to report to the director of HR? (during which time Aldrich assaults a young Blackhawks employee) and after his resignation, they give him $22k in pay + a $15k playoff bonus AND let him celebrate with the team and have a personal day with the cup.
There also seems to be a whole lot of lack of recollection.
Arn
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The incidents and the report of the incidents is horrific.
But I just cannot get my head around why people would read it and be coming out with things like ?he?s not this kind of guy? or ?he?s a good guy? etc. I mean even if you do still think that after reading it all, read the room. Don?t make this about the perpetrators being the victims here.
But I just cannot get my head around why people would read it and be coming out with things like ?he?s not this kind of guy? or ?he?s a good guy? etc. I mean even if you do still think that after reading it all, read the room. Don?t make this about the perpetrators being the victims here.
Guilt Trip
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I have zero issue with Q coaching last night because the meeting with Bettman was today and as long as he gets the punishment right it's good. Same goes with Chevy as his meeting has been moved up to tomorrow.L K said:
Guilt Trip
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https://twitter.com/NHLCoachesAssoc/status/1453901945530376194
ZBBM
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"With deep regret and contrition, I announce my resignation as head coach of the Florida Panthers," Quenneville said in a statement. "I want to express my sorrow for the pain this young man, Kyle Beach, suffered. My former team the Blackhawks failed Kyle and I own my share of that. I want to reflect on how all of this happened and take the time to educate myself on ensuring hockey spaces are safe for everyone."
Peter D.
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I?m fully anticipating this being the league?s Me Too movement and this is just scratching the surface of things to come. With the deep rooted culture of hazing and all that comes with it, there for sure is a lot of these disgusting stories that have been buried over the years. Time to bring them to light and rinse the sport clean of that ridiculous behaviour and ?tradition?.
bustaheims
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L K said:
Panthers probably should have put him on administrative leave - especially since they almost certainly knew about his decisions beforehand - but, ultimately, it would have been more symbolic than anything else (which isn't necessarily worthless, of course).
Same with the Jets and Chevy. He shouldn't be working right now, and should be strongly encouraged to resign.
L K
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Guilt Trip said:
I think that's kind of bullshit argument. This wasn't a case of not knowing what happened at this point. If a player elbows a guy in the head and his team has a game the next night but the league doesn't have the ability to do an in person hearing until 2-3 days later you don't wait to suspend the guy. He sits that night.
Ignoring the decade of inaction, the report was out. It was a horrendous take to let him coach that game.
Guilt Trip
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It's my opinion and it's fine if you don't agree. I'm not arguing the point. Beach said himself he hopes Bettman talks with anyone and everyone before he makes a decision. I suspect Chevy to be handing in his resignation later today after his meeting.L K said: