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Blake, Forsberg, Hasek, Modano, Burns & McCreary elected to HHOF

bustaheims said:
Joe S. said:
That being said, I don't understand how Forsberg gets in and Lindros doesn't.

Cup rings and international play. Those are really the only things separating the two in terms of accomplishment.

Even still, Lindros has a pretty good international resume. An Olympic gold and silver, two WJC golds, the '91 Canada Cup. Forsberg's resume isn't much better in that regard.
 
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
Joe S. said:
That being said, I don't understand how Forsberg gets in and Lindros doesn't.

Cup rings and international play. Those are really the only things separating the two in terms of accomplishment.

Even still, Lindros has a pretty good international resume. An Olympic gold and silver, two WJC golds, the '91 Canada Cup. Forsberg's resume isn't much better in that regard.

The playoffs is a legitimate argument though. 

Forsberg - 171 points
Lindros - 57 points

Mind you I really hate that argument because it isn't Lindros' fault that the NHL didn't protect his skull and that he didn't have Patrick Roy in net.
 
L K said:
The playoffs is a legitimate argument though.

Forsberg - 171 points
Lindros - 57 points

Maybe, but there wasn't much to choose between them as far as actual performance went. Lindros was a career 1.07 PPG in the playoffs and Forsberg was at 1.13.

Also, has to be said, Forsberg was in those years a #2 center. Maybe the best #2 center ever, sure, but he was still on a team that, if he missed the whole year, was a top 5 team in the league. Separate him from Joe Sakic and he never even got out of the first round.
 
Nik the Trik said:
L K said:
The playoffs is a legitimate argument though.

Forsberg - 171 points
Lindros - 57 points

Maybe, but there wasn't much to choose between them as far as actual performance went. Lindros was a career 1.07 PPG in the playoffs and Forsberg was at 1.13.

Also, has to be said, Forsberg was in those years a #2 center. Maybe the best #2 center ever, sure, but he was still on a team that, if he missed the whole year, was a top 5 team in the league. Separate him from Joe Sakic and he never even got out of the first round.

I feel like it's unfair and quite frankly untrue given the number of games played but Forsberg picked up a reputation as a guy who played through the pain with a broken body.  Lindros was treated like a guy who couldn't do it...because you know, concussions aren't a real injury, unlike foot problems.

 
New Jersey general manager Lou Lamoriello thought back to hiring Pat Burns, the late coach who helped Devils win the Stanley Cup, and talking to him about hockey the day before he died.

All those memories of Burns came flooding back to Lamoriello Monday during a call from Burns's widow, Line, as the coach was finally elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame.

"It's just a tremendous, tremendous honour for him," Lamoriello said in a phone interview. "Well deserved. Just tremendous. You can tell in my voice."

Part of the enjoyment is recalling what Burns accomplished in his coaching career after moving on from 17 years as a police officer in Quebec.

He won the QMJHL title in one of three seasons at the helm of the Hull Olympiques from 1984 to 1987, then, after a stint with the AHL's Sherbrooke Canadiens, won the Jack Adams as a rookie NHL coach in Montreal. His second coach of the year award came with the Toronto Maple Leafs in 1992-93, and his third with the Boston Bruins in 1997-98.

Burns is the only coach to win the award three times.

It says a lot of what he had to bring to organizations and it's timing is everything in life," Lamoriello said. "Not every set of personnel is for every coach. But he found a way to get the personnel that he was given at that time to bring them to a level."

"I know that Pat would've been so happy, so grateful, so proud to accept this honour," Line Burns said. "One word that comes to my mind is grateful. Thank you, thank you, thank you."

Pat Burns brought so much emotion and character to the game,"
(former referee Bill)McCreary said. "It was always a pleasure to be on the ice with him. Although lots of times he didn't agree with your decision, he was always very professional in the way he handled that. I have many, many great memories of many great games with Pat."

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/57315-Late-coach-Pat-Burns-gets-longawaited-election-to-Hockey-Hall-of-Fame.html






 
L K said:
I feel like it's unfair and quite frankly untrue given the number of games played but Forsberg picked up a reputation as a guy who played through the pain with a broken body.  Lindros was treated like a guy who couldn't do it...because you know, concussions aren't a real injury, unlike foot problems.

I just think he rubbed people the wrong way with a lot of what he did because he was a smart, thoughtful guy who wasn't interested in just buying into whatever the traditional hockey world thought. Like, you say people should get over the Quebec stuff but I bet, if you asked him, he'd still say that he was right there. That he became, in later years, a pretty strong pro-union voice also probably rankled a lot of the pretty pro-establishment members of the voting committee.
 

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