Blue Jackets @ Maple Leafs - Dec. 14th, 7:00pm - SN, TSN 1050
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L K said:
Toronto is the birthplace of Robidas Island ...
As terrible as it might sound, this injury might be a good thing for his career.
The downward trajectory to this point in this season was not good.
He can focus on his fitness and getting his hockey head screwed on right for a last shot at continuing his career.
Guilt Trip
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I read it as credit that he values his opinion. Keefe is taking advice and utilizing his coaches.Zee said:
herman
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Guilt Trip said:
That's how I read it too. It would've put Jones in a tough spot, and maybe make Samsonov feel worse, stewing on the bench instead of getting the chance to take control of the situation. And Sammy pitched a shutout third.
I like that they didn't give up on the game but, according to Keefe, made it a team goal to give the fans something worthwhile, even if they didn't win. You can see it in Matthews' game tying goal: he was about to celebrate with his teammates as usual and remembered who they were doing it for.
https://twitter.com/TicTacTOmar/status/1735491162461323481
Fantastic one-touch pass by Marner too
L K
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Matthews with 9 goals in 6 games in December. 16 goals in 18 games since the start of November.
Despite 23 goals in 27 games he has two stretches of 1 goal in 7 games and 1 goal in 9 games. He has scored in 12 of 27 games and he has scored 2 or more goals in 8 of those 12 games.
Despite 23 goals in 27 games he has two stretches of 1 goal in 7 games and 1 goal in 9 games. He has scored in 12 of 27 games and he has scored 2 or more goals in 8 of those 12 games.
Guilt Trip said:
I didn't take it negatively either.
Keefe relayed that they talked about it which was reasonable under the circumstances.
Keefe complimented Samsonov on holding them in there in the 3rd.
Samsonov bears some responsibility for the goals against last night but obviously, so do the skaters.
L K said:
He's on pace for 69 goals and his 5-on-5 goal scoring rate isn't even nearly as good as it can be. In 20/21 when he scored 41 goals in 52 games he lead the league by a considerable margin with a 1.94 5-on-5 G/60 rate. When he hit 60 in 74 in 21/22 he was again at 1.94 G/60 which again led the league by a considerable margin. This season that rate has dropped all the way down to 1.45. If you want to use a cutoff of 300 5-on-5 minutes that puts him 19th in the league. Interestingly former Leafs Trevor Moore, Mikheyev, and Hyman rank 1st, 4th, and 5th in that stat right now which is... bizarre to say the least.
Point is it's crazy to even think about what Matthews' final goal tally could be if his 5-on-5 numbers start to get back to those heights. Hypothetically if he was scoring 5-on-5 goals at a 1.94 / 60 rate this season he'd have 26 goals total in 27 games.
L K
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CarltonTheBear said:
To put in in even more franchise perspective:
5th all time - Auston Matthews - 322 goals (508 GP)
4th all time - Ron Ellis - 332 goals (1034 GP) - 10 goals back
3rd all time - Dave Keon - 365 goals (1062 GP) - 43 goals back
2nd all time - Darryl Sittler - 389 goals (844 GP) - 67 goals back
1st all time - Mats Sundin - 420 goals (981 GP) - 98 goals back
Right now Matthews is on pace to pass Dave Keon (368 goals if he hits 69). That would leave him 52 goals behind Sundin. It is distinctly possible that we could see Matthews be the franchise leader in goals by the end of the 2025 season.
dappleganger
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L K said:
Just wow. I hope everyone is enjoying this.
azzurri63
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Missed most of the game with birthday commitments. Got home saw we tied it up after 5 down. Great to get the point. Another bad start which has happened a lot this year. Samsonov's play is concerning and our 3 on 3 coverage is brutal. I understand all the open ice in OT but I really don't get how we continue to leave guys open. Domi and Nylander's coverage on the winning goal was terrible. If it comes down to being gassed which I don't buy then Keefe needs to reconsider who he sends out in OT. If we are losing games because some guys are getting overplayed then what's the difference if we lose the game with Robertson or Jarnkrok or others on the ice instead of the core? The goaltending though needs to be addressed. Not sure of Jones but Sammy is definitely not the answer.
herman
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Just to add some more fuel to the fire, league wide save percentage is tanking. Who are even the good goalies left these days? Sorokin, Shesterkin, Hellebyuck, maybe Demko? Saros and Ullmark are sinking a bit; mostly not in the Atlantic Division, that's for sure.
Fire away, Matthews!
Fire away, Matthews!
Highlander
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Ya sorry he is hurt, not a way I wanted him to go out.Guilt Trip said:Better for the team overall but still don't like seeing anyone get hurt. No worries about Liljegren coming back now cap wise.herman said:https://twitter.com/dalter/status/1735498268207980716
ZBBM
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Not looking to reopen the argument on how much Sammy was to blame but just FWIW the MLHS take is pretty much my take too:
Neither of these first two goals was remotely on Ilya Samsonov.
3. The 3-0 goal, this time during four-on-four, again started with a basic execution error on a D-to-D play behind the goal line between Conor Timmins and Jake McCabe, leading to a loss of possession in the defensive zone. Granted, this goal was where Ilya Samsonov started to play a role in the big deficit.
Funny enough, the only reason it wasn?t 3-0 or 4-0 in the first 20 minutes was Samsonov; he stopped a cross-seam backdoor play, two point-blank chances, and two other grade-A chances from the slot to keep it at just two in the first period. But he also played a notable role in the five-goal deficit after 40 minutes; the 3-0 goal shouldn?t have gone in as he was a little slow to react to the bounce off the back wall and took a weird approach as he knocked the puck into his own net off his blocker.
Neither of these first two goals was remotely on Ilya Samsonov.
3. The 3-0 goal, this time during four-on-four, again started with a basic execution error on a D-to-D play behind the goal line between Conor Timmins and Jake McCabe, leading to a loss of possession in the defensive zone. Granted, this goal was where Ilya Samsonov started to play a role in the big deficit.
Funny enough, the only reason it wasn?t 3-0 or 4-0 in the first 20 minutes was Samsonov; he stopped a cross-seam backdoor play, two point-blank chances, and two other grade-A chances from the slot to keep it at just two in the first period. But he also played a notable role in the five-goal deficit after 40 minutes; the 3-0 goal shouldn?t have gone in as he was a little slow to react to the bounce off the back wall and took a weird approach as he knocked the puck into his own net off his blocker.
louisstamos
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herman said:
I'm kind of surprised Lagesson is seemingly getting away scott free with this, but at the same time, it's pretty much a carbon copy of the Marchand slewfoot on Liljegren, and he didn't get anything for that either.
Guru Tugginmypuddah
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Guru Tugginmypuddah
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louisstamos said:
Lagesson comes in behind Laine, Laine tries to shrug him off going in for the puck. Lagesson gets thrown off balance, his leg comes up and trips Laine.