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CBA Agreement Reached

Corn Flake said:
Frank E said:
There are a few guys that I would have suspected might try to remain in the KHL...Kovalchuk and his forever deal certainly wasn't one of them.

EDIT: And I know it's just speculation at this point.
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he was owed $11 million if 82 games were played this year, so $6.38 mil in cash based on 48 games if my math is right.

I have a hard time believing he won't come home for that.
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Here's the reason why he might not:

http://deadspin.com/5974245/the-nhl-barely-dodged-a-putin+backed-russian-mutiny-but-the-league-might-not-be-out-of-the-woods-yet

But a series of tweets from the New York Post's Larry Brooks suggests that there's more to it. According to Brooks, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, and Datsyuk were prepared to announce on Friday that they would remain in the KHL regardless of how the latest CBA discussions concluded. Brooks reported that Vladimir Putin himself guaranteed the four players $30 million each to stay. The NHLPA talked the big four out of that deal?presumably by guaranteeing them that labor peace would soon arrive, which it did?but the KHL hasn't quit yet. Malamud reported today that the energy kingpins who own Kovalchuk and Datsyuk's teams are presently preparing more tempting offers to keep them around. Maybe they'll get their own mines and refineries, or something?
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Corn Flake said:
Britishbulldog said:
So I have been looking for clarification of the 2 buyouts.  Do they both need to be used next summer?  I seen someone suggest getting Luongo and buying him out the following summer.
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Acquire Luongo and then buy him out for $20+ million? I assume the notion is to then re-sign him for a more reasonable term?

That seems completely bass ackwards to me. Yeah his deal is long and a bit pricey but that approach probably adds another $30 mil to the overall cost.  I assume you would have to sign him for at least 5 years at around $6 mil, so after giving him $20+ mil you then sign him again for another $30?  Why not just take him on at the current silly contract rate and hope he reitres early and Van gets stuck with that cap recoup penalty?
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I think they said it's not allowed to re-acquire a player you bought out using the 2 free buyouts.
 
Nik V. Debs said:
Here's the reason why he might not:

http://deadspin.com/5974245/the-nhl-barely-dodged-a-putin+backed-russian-mutiny-but-the-league-might-not-be-out-of-the-woods-yet

But a series of tweets from the New York Post's Larry Brooks suggests that there's more to it. According to Brooks, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, and Datsyuk were prepared to announce on Friday that they would remain in the KHL regardless of how the latest CBA discussions concluded. Brooks reported that Vladimir Putin himself guaranteed the four players $30 million each to stay. The NHLPA talked the big four out of that deal?presumably by guaranteeing them that labor peace would soon arrive, which it did?but the KHL hasn't quit yet. Malamud reported today that the energy kingpins who own Kovalchuk and Datsyuk's teams are presently preparing more tempting offers to keep them around. Maybe they'll get their own mines and refineries, or something?
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There's certainly a number that'll keep them there, but I'm trying to figure out what the drawbacks are for the KHL if they were to pull off something like that.

Like a list of pros and cons from the KHL's perspective...
 
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=413185

Can someone please explain how option 3 on Redden helps the following year?
 
So much for how sorry they are to the fans.  It takes a week to ratify and we still can't get a schedule as they continue to fight through the MOU stage.  I don't think these 2 groups get it from a fans perspective.
 
Whether they get it or not probably isn't the highest priority. They're about to execute an agreement that lasts 8-10 years; they're going to take the time to dot the i's and cross the t's.
 
I just don't see how releasing a schedule and giving your ticket holders a chance to plan to attend games hurts this process any.
 
Bates said:
I just don't see how releasing a schedule and giving your ticket holders a chance to plan to attend games hurts this process any.
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Well, the schedule is impacted by when the MOU gets finalized. It was also very in flux until, like yesterday, in terms of getting approval from all the venues, teams, etc.
 
But the teams now have the schedule. There is no reason not to release it to the fans that there are apparently sorry to.
 
Bates said:
But the teams now have the schedule. There is no reason not to release it to the fans that there are apparently sorry to.
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I'm not 100% what they have right now is the official final schedule. But, the legal reality is that they can't release things like that until the lockout is officially lifted, which it won't be until the MOU is finalized.
 
How would it relate legally for a team to tell it's fans that there is a home game scheduled for Saturday night?  Don't the people paying the freight deserve the chance to plan to attend an event that they paid for?  A simple press release noting which teams now tentatively have a home game in one week time is not too much to ask.
 
I seen somewhere last night (TSN?) that the NHLPA ratification voting ended
at 9 am PST? I would have thought the results would have been announced by now - or is this more Fehr BS?
 
lamajama said:
I seen somewhere last night (TSN?) that the NHLPA ratification voting ended
at 9 am PST? I would have thought the results would have been announced by now - or is this more Fehr BS?
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They're not announcing the results until the MOU is finalized, but, being that they're still working on the MOU, it's a pretty safe assumption that the PA ratified the deal.
 
Bates said:
How would it relate legally for a team to tell it's fans that there is a home game scheduled for Saturday night?  Don't the people paying the freight deserve the chance to plan to attend an event that they paid for?  A simple press release noting which teams now tentatively have a home game in one week time is not too much to ask.
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Because, that's how lockouts work. Releasing the schedule or even announcing the opening night schedule would be "business as usual," which is not allowed until the lockout it lifted. You don't have to understand it (and, quite frankly, I don't either), but that's how it works.
 
I guess I just want to hear that it's officially over..... :)

Then I can resume being peed off and pretending I won't watch any games.
 
Bates said:
How would it relate legally for a team to tell it's fans that there is a home game scheduled for Saturday night?  Don't the people paying the freight deserve the chance to plan to attend an event that they paid for?  A simple press release noting which teams now tentatively have a home game in one week time is not too much to ask.
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They said on TSN last night that another reason that the schedule hasn't been released yet is that the NHL is giving teams a chance to go over it and any team with a legitimate issue with any of the games can bring it up to the NHL. There's no point in telling fans when a game might be if they have to change things again.

It's supposed to be released later today though so a few hours really shouldn't make much of a difference with the fans.
 
I think we need a Letter of Understanding (LOU) that the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) will be completed so we can just get on with our lives.

(okay I'm punchy)
 
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