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Coaching and management changes around the league

https://twitter.com/NHLbyMatty/status/1124392024986259457

It's almost like every single day Jim Matheson posts something even dumber about the Oilers GM situation. It's truly an amazing thing to experience. I hope they don't name someone until September.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/NHLbyMatty/status/1124392024986259457

It's almost like every single day Jim Matheson posts something even dumber about the Oilers GM situation. It's truly an amazing thing to experience. I hope they don't name someone until September.
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Oilers need to take a page out of the Leafs playbook.  Hire a former NHL player who has no ties to their team to be team president (Leafs did with Shanahan) then he goes out and decides who the GM should be.  I propose Tie Domi to be Oilers president.
 
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A handful of other candidates went through the song and dance of applying, interviewing, outlining their long term plan for success with the Oiler franchise. Oilers brain trust throws money at Holland, the available name brand GM who has put his current team into the exact same situation the Oilers are in, sans McDavid.
 
I don't know if that's fair. I think Holland has done a reasonably good job in finding players in the draft in the last few years.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I don't know if that's fair. I think Holland has done a reasonably good job in finding players in the draft in the last few years.
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How much is that Detroit's scouts vs Oilers scouts. Holland just gives the go ahead on drafting the scouts consensus
 
Zee said:
How much is that Detroit's scouts vs Oilers scouts. Holland just gives the go ahead on drafting the scouts consensus
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But the GM is responsible for assembling both the scouting and the development staff.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Zee said:
How much is that Detroit's scouts vs Oilers scouts. Holland just gives the go ahead on drafting the scouts consensus
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But the GM is responsible for assembling both the scouting and the development staff.
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True enough but he won't be able to take Detroit's scouting staff with him. Unless Yzerman fires the lot of them they're staying in Detroit.
 
The big question will be does Holland have the clout to clear house in Edmonton, something the Gretzky and Hunter probably wouldn't be able to do. If the answer is yes, which is very well might be, then this is the best thing for them even if Holland is overrated as a GM at this point.
 
Zee said:
True enough but he won't be able to take Detroit's scouting staff with him. Unless Yzerman fires the lot of them they're staying in Detroit.
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Sure, so the question of how successful Holland can be in Edmonton assembling something new is up in the air. I'm just saying it's a little unfair to say he hasn't done a better job of assembling talent than Edmonton's tire fire considering what Detroit has on its big club and some of the pretty solid pieces they've got waiting.

Holland, as CtB says, is probably overrated as a GM but not much more than just the whole idea of a GM having a huge impact on a team's fortunes is overstated.
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/1125040188994899969
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#HireBabcock
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I gotta say if there really is any squabbling between Dubas and Babcock this gives everyone involved the perfect opportunity to end the relationship and have everyone save face. So if Babs stays we really need to retire this narrative that they hate each other and passive aggressively trade barbs in the media and on twitter.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/1125040188994899969
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#HireBabcock
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I gotta say if there really is any squabbling between Dubas and Babcock this gives everyone involved the perfect opportunity to end the relationship and have everyone save face. So if Babs stays we really need to retire this narrative that they hate each other and passive aggressively trade barbs in the media and on twitter.
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Wasn't the rumour that Babcock and Holland didn't like each other by the end of their time together?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/1125040188994899969
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#HireBabcock
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I gotta say if there really is any squabbling between Dubas and Babcock this gives everyone involved the perfect opportunity to end the relationship and have everyone save face. So if Babs stays we really need to retire this narrative that they hate each other and passive aggressively trade barbs in the media and on twitter.
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Yeah, if Dubas and co. truly don't believe Babcock is the long term solution as coach, this + Keefe winning another Calder Cup is the perfect storm in which to make that change, and NOT making that move will say as much, if not more than pulling that trigger.
 
https://twitter.com/BoltsJolts/status/1125171272680394754

Haha, I forgot that he threw this out there earlier.
The aforementioned article.
 
Crake said:
Wasn't the rumour that Babcock and Holland didn't like each other by the end of their time together?
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Well he reportedly still made him a 5-year contract offer that would have made him the highest paid coach in the league.
 
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