Joe S.
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Holy crap I fell for that? Ok... I'm an idiot. I thought that was real.
Coaching and management changes around the league
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There is likely a clause in his contract - which Cassidy signed.
Teams signed coaches to guaranteed contracts for say 4 years. They then fired him after two for example. There was a time when coaches could go get another job and be potentially paid by two teams. So the contracts quickly evolved to prevent double dipping: when the coach is relieved of his coaching duties, he remains under contract with his team (potentially providing consulting opinions for example) and has to terminate that contract before accepting another. Millions of dollars are now involved. So the situation morphs into maybe tampering territory or contract violation territory ...
If the Oilers land Cassidy and a decent goalie, that's trouble for Vegas ... so their position isn't hard to figure out.
Having said that, Cassidy is a good Cup winning coach and it is in the best interests of the league to have him behind a bench in the NHL.
The devil is in the details.
herman
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It’s so good. No shame in that.
So Cassidy confirmed that:
In-demand Cassidy: ‘I want to work’
Vegas Golden Knights general manager Kelly McCrimmon said last week that former head coach Bruce Cassidy understands the team’s decision to block him from interviewing for vacancies with the Edmonton Oilers and Los Angeles Kings, but that doesn’t mean he has to like it.
www.tsn.ca
In the case of the Oilers, I do have some sympathy with Vegas. Vegas paid Cassidy to know the Vegas players intimately. To have him head to Edmonton and use that against them in next year's regular season and playoffs (they're in the same conference) - I can see Vegas' concern and why they would be reluctant to release him to do so. They negotiated the clause and Cassidy signed the contract. I also get that it would be very frustrating for Cassidy and lousy for the league to be without his coaching for a year.
If I'm Vegas and I have that clause in my ex-coach's contract, I'd probably do the same thing - for teams in my conference at the very least.
As for Leafs fans, maybe that increases the Leafs chances to land Cassidy ... (though I have my doubts the Leafs situation would appeal to Cassidy)
herman
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Ok this one is good
He wanted full control, which never happened with the Avs and likely wasn't ever going to happen anytime in the near or even distant future with Sakic above him. I would guess even his initial promotion to GM 4 years ago was mostly just a salary/title bump than anything in order to keep other teams from poaching him (like Anaheim wanted to do before the promotion).
I think Nashville's also a really appealing spot for a guy like him to take charge over. Good draft pick situation, good cap space situation, 5th best prospect group (according to the Athletic at least), no-tax state. If he's got the go ahead for a rebuild there's also a number of good assets there that could easily be dealt before the team goes on a tank year for Dupont.
Thx for filling me in.
Makes sense.
For the amount of effort the Preds have put in with what I recall of their UFA signings, etc, I didn't think they'd win anything but I expected they would be better than they were. I have not followed them very closely - that is just the impression I got from whatever I observed from the outside.
It appears he is going to an ownership that is willing to try with his $$
Avs were in a similar place as the Leafs in terms of too much cap $ devoted to their top players - not enough for the depth players. They recognized it and thus the Rantanen deal. I'm still shocked Vegas swept them. I do not think that result fairly represents the talent that roster has.
I will watch with great interest to see what Sakic does to 'correct' that roster.
Here's the official NHL position on Cassidy's contract
ca.sports.yahoo.com
The silver lining might be that they will review it again at the end of the season.
It does look like Vegas has the legal power to pay him $5 mil next year to not coach. (So he's not going to starve to death)
Clearly, Vegas is currently holding Cassidy to the terms of the contract he signed so my sympathies are limited. If he didn't like those terms, he shouldn't have signed the contract with those terms.
Having said that, if he is not coaching in the league next year, that is a loss for the league. Hopefully, they find some compromise (maybe let him coach the Leafs in the East ..)
I saw a media report today from a Vegas reporter that gave Cassidy some credit for the foundation of what Vegas is doing in the playoffs ...
Bettman, Daly Back Golden Knights in Cassidy Controversy
The Vegas Golden Knights are the shining stars of the entertainment capital of the world, and they’ve been the talk of the town for the last two months. Of course, most of the headlines pertain to their postseason success— after largely failing to live up to their potential during the regular...
The silver lining might be that they will review it again at the end of the season.
It does look like Vegas has the legal power to pay him $5 mil next year to not coach. (So he's not going to starve to death)
Clearly, Vegas is currently holding Cassidy to the terms of the contract he signed so my sympathies are limited. If he didn't like those terms, he shouldn't have signed the contract with those terms.
Having said that, if he is not coaching in the league next year, that is a loss for the league. Hopefully, they find some compromise (maybe let him coach the Leafs in the East ..)
I saw a media report today from a Vegas reporter that gave Cassidy some credit for the foundation of what Vegas is doing in the playoffs ...
Joe S.
Moderator
Wtf does 'insist upon a long term contract' mean?Here's the official NHL position on Cassidy's contract
Bettman, Daly Back Golden Knights in Cassidy Controversy
The Vegas Golden Knights are the shining stars of the entertainment capital of the world, and they’ve been the talk of the town for the last two months. Of course, most of the headlines pertain to their postseason success— after largely failing to live up to their potential during the regular...
The silver lining might be that they will review it again at the end of the season.
It does look like Vegas has the legal power to pay him $5 mil next year to not coach. (So he's not going to starve to death)
Clearly, Vegas is currently holding Cassidy to the terms of the contract he signed so my sympathies are limited. If he didn't like those terms, he shouldn't have signed the contract with those terms.
Having said that, if he is not coaching in the league next year, that is a loss for the league. Hopefully, they find some compromise (maybe let him coach the Leafs in the East ..)
I saw a media report today from a Vegas reporter that gave Cassidy some credit for the foundation of what Vegas is doing in the playoffs ...
The coach wanted a long term deal.
Because of that, other clauses got added to deal with the coach being fired before his contract had ended - more likely to happen with a longer term deal. The coach wanted a guarantee he would still get paid for the whole term of his deal if they fired him (to help discourage them from firing him too easily - to get out of paying him). So the team kept the coach retained under contract for the whole term - even if he had been relieved of continuing to perform his coaching duties. Vegas controls his coaching services until his contract ends. That is what they agreed to in that contract. It is pretty clear cut contract law. Cassidy doesn't like it but it is highly probable his lawyer laid that out for him before he signed it.
Cassidy knows Vegas players intimately. Vegas paid him millions to learn about their players. Vegas probably doesn't want that knowledge used against them should they face Edmonton or LA next season.