Corn Flake
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Erndog said:
Take outside right away... back in... eat... take outside again. Always go with poop/pee as the first thing he does when you get up or get home, especially when he's a puppy.
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Take outside right away... back in... eat... take outside again. Always go with poop/pee as the first thing he does when you get up or get home, especially when he's a puppy.
maplesyrup
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Yeah... and it's not a good idea to make it play time when he first comes out of the crate or he'll always want out of it. Just make coming out of the crate a oh-hum casual thing. Then, as Corn says, do the pee/poop thing, THEN play.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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leafsjunkie said:I would suggest reading a few books from Ceasar Millan (Dog Whisperer).
I don't think pack leaders 'yelp' at another dog when another dog does something to the pack leader (bites/nips/agressive), the pack leader puts that dog in its place.
Always be calm and assertive. Exercise, discipline, and affection are required "in that order" for dogs to be healthy and balanced.
Again, if you've never seen or heard of Ceasar, I recommend looking into it. He rehabilitates dogs and trains people
Sorry, that guy is a tool who basically, physically abuses dogs.
maplesyrup
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Yeah, I don't have a lot of respect for many of his methods.
leafsjunkie
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:leafsjunkie said:I would suggest reading a few books from Ceasar Millan (Dog Whisperer).
I don't think pack leaders 'yelp' at another dog when another dog does something to the pack leader (bites/nips/agressive), the pack leader puts that dog in its place.
Always be calm and assertive. Exercise, discipline, and affection are required "in that order" for dogs to be healthy and balanced.
Again, if you've never seen or heard of Ceasar, I recommend looking into it. He rehabilitates dogs and trains people
Sorry, that guy is a tool who basically, physically abuses dogs.
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:-X Huh? Any proof for that statement?
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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I'm at work and can't put together a ton fo stuff on it, but here is one video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGuuQO54hPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGuuQO54hPo
LittleHockeyFan
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don't hit the dog. ever. that solves nothing. even yelling at it, scolding it after the fact is useless. You have to catch them in the act.
As stated by someone earlier, always, always, let pup/even adult dog out for pee/poop immediately upon returning from any length of time away from him/her. Praise lots when you let pup out and it does its business asap. "Good dog!!" with as many o's in good as you can muster. Pat on head and let them know what a good pup they were. They love being praised and will learn quickly what brings praise. Ignore bad if it's after the fact. If you can catch them mid-poop or pee yell NO loudly and immediately take outside to do business (and then praise!). Try not to clean it up in front of them.
We're helping train our daughter's new pup right now. Best teacher is another dog! She was having no end of accidents in the house until they got here. Our dog stands by the back door when he wants out (or if the laundry room door is shut, he'll stand by that and give you the 'wtf do I have to do to get out!' look until you catch on.) One day with our dog and her pup has caught onto the stand by the door and give humans The Look (TM). No accidents since.
patience though. Above all, pup wants you to love and praise him and they'll learn soon enough that going outside=good! happy owner, praise! going in house=bad, sad owner, no praise.
Don't reward bathroom with food, reward with praise/love.
and the puppy's adorable Ern!!!!
As stated by someone earlier, always, always, let pup/even adult dog out for pee/poop immediately upon returning from any length of time away from him/her. Praise lots when you let pup out and it does its business asap. "Good dog!!" with as many o's in good as you can muster. Pat on head and let them know what a good pup they were. They love being praised and will learn quickly what brings praise. Ignore bad if it's after the fact. If you can catch them mid-poop or pee yell NO loudly and immediately take outside to do business (and then praise!). Try not to clean it up in front of them.
We're helping train our daughter's new pup right now. Best teacher is another dog! She was having no end of accidents in the house until they got here. Our dog stands by the back door when he wants out (or if the laundry room door is shut, he'll stand by that and give you the 'wtf do I have to do to get out!' look until you catch on.) One day with our dog and her pup has caught onto the stand by the door and give humans The Look (TM). No accidents since.
patience though. Above all, pup wants you to love and praise him and they'll learn soon enough that going outside=good! happy owner, praise! going in house=bad, sad owner, no praise.
Don't reward bathroom with food, reward with praise/love.
and the puppy's adorable Ern!!!!
leafsjunkie
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
How did I know you were going to post that video. LMAO. Are you kidding?
Talk about taking something out of context. He is not 'kicking' these dogs.... I watched almost all of those episodes on TV (not just the 5 second snippett that's taken out of the show and posted into a video of small clips...).
Have you ever watched him or read a book? Or just regurgitating things your read off the internets?
Red zone dogs, you even know what that is? The guy is amazing with dogs. He's saved countless dogs that were going to be put down.
If you don't walk your dog at least an hour a day and you don't discipline your dog as soon as he/she has done something wrong and you only give them 'affection' (most likely at the wrong time), dog owners have no one to blame but themselves. Dogs are dogs, not people. I see too many people with dogs and treat them like kids... That will always fail, dogs are pack animals and the human needs to be the leader. If the human isn't doing that, the dog will take over the responsibility and you'll have an animal that doesn't listen or respect you and you'll have problems.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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I've had large dogs since about the age of two years old, including German Sheppards, Millan's methods are not acceptable in any, way, shape or form.
I am absolutely the alpha in the household and I achieve that easily without having to strike them.
Occasionally I have had to dominate my dogs, one of the best methods I find is lifting a dog so that it's front two legs are off the ground, it asserts your dominance and usually results in submission from your dog.
LittleHockeyFan
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Rick said:
Angus was not only huge and gorgeous, he was also one very smart dog!
xoxox
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Keep to a schedule . With my dog growing up he always when out the same times (obviously there were exceptions at times) I've known owners who couldn't set any order for their dog and the dog ended up having accidents everywhere. Then it just became natural to him to go inside and the owner blamed everyone but themselves.
Darryl said:
Yeah, we're really focusing on a schedule.
I've taken a lot of the pointers here and put them into practise. It's still very early but so far so good.
He cried at 3am last night, wouldn't stop, so we took him out and he did his business. On one hand it's great he let us know, and didn't go in his crate and waited until outside. On the other hand, it was dead of morning and we don't want him getting used to that. Still- he's a pup with a small bladder so I can tolerate it occasionally now. Hope he starts waiting til morning though.
Bullfrog
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Don't worry about him getting used to that. He's very young yet. As he gets older he'll go much longer in between times.
My 10 year old lab/shepherd cross will go 10-12 hours without peeing if he's being particularly lazy. It's common for him to come in for the day at 8:00 pm and not go out again until 6:30 am.
My 10 year old lab/shepherd cross will go 10-12 hours without peeing if he's being particularly lazy. It's common for him to come in for the day at 8:00 pm and not go out again until 6:30 am.
AlmosGirl
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Congrats on the new puppy Erndog. We have a new puppy as well - a Coton de Tulear that was born Dec 4/12. He's 14 wks old now and we've had him since Feb 12/13 and his name is Parker (for Spiderman because my 4 yr old wanted to call him Spiderman, or Optimus Prime or Starscream!)
Crate training was relatively easy and he loves his crate. When it's time for bed (right now we move the crate to another room for bedtime because he uses it throughout the day in the family room) and he just follows us and goes right inside. He sleeps all night and one of the things I learnt and have read is to take up their water and food bowls at around 7pm to help with no peeing and pooing throughout the night. We feed 2x a day (morning and evening) and of course water throughout the day.
As for nipping, we usually do the loud "yelp" or "owwww" or "no" and remove hand right away and stop any play so that he knows it isn't acceptable.
Definitely take right from crate and right outside first thing. No playing, no food, nothing until he goes outside. Then he usually drinks and eats a little and after a few minutes back outside if he hasn't gone poo in the morning. We bought a crate from PetSmart that has the divider and he has enough room to turn around and that's it and he's had not one accident in his crate. He's been pretty good and has had an "occasional" accident in the house so far but they are getting further apart. For being 3 mths old, he's doing relatively well.
I'll have to get a pic up to show him off.
Crate training was relatively easy and he loves his crate. When it's time for bed (right now we move the crate to another room for bedtime because he uses it throughout the day in the family room) and he just follows us and goes right inside. He sleeps all night and one of the things I learnt and have read is to take up their water and food bowls at around 7pm to help with no peeing and pooing throughout the night. We feed 2x a day (morning and evening) and of course water throughout the day.
As for nipping, we usually do the loud "yelp" or "owwww" or "no" and remove hand right away and stop any play so that he knows it isn't acceptable.
Definitely take right from crate and right outside first thing. No playing, no food, nothing until he goes outside. Then he usually drinks and eats a little and after a few minutes back outside if he hasn't gone poo in the morning. We bought a crate from PetSmart that has the divider and he has enough room to turn around and that's it and he's had not one accident in his crate. He's been pretty good and has had an "occasional" accident in the house so far but they are getting further apart. For being 3 mths old, he's doing relatively well.
I'll have to get a pic up to show him off.
AlmosGirl said:
Amazing! Sounds exactly like us! But Puck seems to still have an accident a day in our house. Mostly just pee though. In the last 10 days or so he's only had 1 poo accident in the house I believe.
We do exactly what you say. Right out of the crate and outside... then bring him in and feed/water him then right back outside in 5-10min to let go of water he can. Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. He usually does pee a little.
He's had 1-2 crate accidents but they have been just pee. One was REALLY fresh... like... 10 min sooner and I would have got him. Poor guy just couldnt hold it.
Seems to be going okay though! No more overnight cries.
AlmosGirl
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That's great. I've also read that you need at least a full 2 to 3 week span of no accidents before you can say that they are fully trained. Right now, our little guy is carried to the door and put outside, so he hasn't quite got the "go to the door" thing. My co-worker has the same dog, from the very same breeder and he was born last July and he said that he was pretty well trained fully by 6 mths. I can't wait to get to that point! The puppy stage is rough!
maplesyrup
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Man, Parker looks like a real stuffed dog! - Very cute.
That's a great looking little dog, AG. And enjoy this puppy stage - it goes by quickly and for all the clean-ups there are, there will be many more fun times ahead.
I have a Golden puppy on the way from a breeder - the Mom is going to have pups at the end of May (the ultrasound showed she is pregnant). I've done the puppy stage twice before and part of me can't believe I am going to accept chewed shoes and carpet repairs. But honestly I can't wait.
I have a Golden puppy on the way from a breeder - the Mom is going to have pups at the end of May (the ultrasound showed she is pregnant). I've done the puppy stage twice before and part of me can't believe I am going to accept chewed shoes and carpet repairs. But honestly I can't wait.