Game 18 - Yotes @ Leafs - 11-15 - 7PM SportsNet

[Arn]

Well, I'm glad I didn't give up on this one after the first - it's grown quite enjoyable!

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I would stand around and give the Coyotes point blank shots on Scrivens in OT.  Seems like a good strategy to win the game.

Come on, the Leafs have had some amazing OT chances, too.

 

[Bender]

Let's cut to the chase here.  Argue all you want to about whether this or that piece of crap is Wilson's fault.  The fact is that the team hasn't gotten it done, and he's been here more than 3 years.  At some point you gas the coach.  Burke should have done it last year but he's letting friendship get in the way of a decision that any other franchise would have made long ago.  End of story.

Before or after you give him a decent goaltender? If we had Nicklas Backstrom or Pekka Rinne we wouldn't even be talking about canning Wilson.

Most coaches in the league can craft a defensive scheme that accounts for less-that-elite goaltending.    He hasn't done it.  And, just in case you have forgotten, he never got it done in SJ with far better goaltending than he got here.

In this league if you don't win, you're gone.  It's well past time to try a different coach.

Let me put the onus on you: What's the downside to firing Wilson?

So how many current coaches have won the cup? Off the top of my head: Mike Babcock, Randy Carlyle, Claude Julien, Joel Quenneville. Any more to add out of a 30 team league?

I'm not saying firing Wilson is a horrible idea. I don't really care for him as a coach. My point is that firing Wilson, imo, will not alleviate the Leafs problems. The goaltending issues will still be there until we get a proper No. 1 in place. The systems are irrelevant when your goalies are scored on on non-scoring chances.

Like I said: Quinn had Belfour and Cujo bail the team out. Burns had Potvin. Every good team has a good goaltender, not vice-versa, at least IMO, unless you want to play the trap like Tampa did.

The Leafs will still have just as many problems without Wilson as they did with Wilson, new systems or not. Maybe it'll kick start the PK% but I think better goaltending will take care of that. The PP needs work and I don't have an answer for that, but I don't know if Wilson is even headmanning that.

No one is talking about winning the cup, getting into the post season or fighting for a top 8 spot would be a step in the right direction.

The reference to SJ is a reference to Wilson not winning the Cup in SJ.

We're above top 8 right now, even with garbage goaltending.

Give the man an extension

Frankly, I don't care if he gets axed. I just don't like the position that firing Wilson will solve all the Leafs' problems.

 

[L K]

How is that not interference blocking the guy getting to the point? the reffing is brutal!

Phoenix uses a lot of picks in the defensive zone too.  They pass the puck (under pressure) from one corner to the other and have a guy skate into the forechecker to so that their other defenseman has a lot of time to clear the puck out of the zone.

 

[Bender]

I would stand around and give the Coyotes point blank shots on Scrivens in OT.  Seems like a good strategy to win the game.

Come on, the Leafs have had some amazing OT chances, too.

Its like we've become overbearing parents.

AN A- IN MATH???? NO DINNER FOR YOU!

 

[bustaheims]

What a crappy shift there by crappy Kulemin. ;D

 

[L K]

I would stand around and give the Coyotes point blank shots on Scrivens in OT.  Seems like a good strategy to win the game.

Come on, the Leafs have had some amazing OT chances, too.

Absolutely, just that last stretch of play there.  They were standing around and Phoenix was buzzing, they looked a little lost with respect to following the puck.  Gunnarsson has set up a pair of good plays already.  Lombardi has made a few good plays by being patient with the puck.

 

[L K]

Taking Kessel down on the rush in the offensive zone = great play and no penalty?

 

[Bender]

Didn't Kessel get hauled down??

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I would stand around and give the Coyotes point blank shots on Scrivens in OT.  Seems like a good strategy to win the game.

Come on, the Leafs have had some amazing OT chances, too.

Absolutely, just that last stretch of play there.  They were standing around and Phoenix was buzzing, they looked a little lost with respect to following the puck.  Gunnarsson has set up a pair of good plays already.  Lombardi has made a few good plays by being patient with the puck.

Thank you  ;D

But yeah, they did look lost on those plays.

 

[Edeagle]

How is that not interference blocking the guy getting to the point? the reffing is brutal!

Phoenix uses a lot of picks in the defensive zone too.  They pass the puck (under pressure) from one corner to the other and have a guy skate into the forechecker to so that their other defenseman has a lot of time to clear the puck out of the zone.

Yeah they've been doing it all game! Did you see Kessel just get molested trying to go to the net? What a joke.

 

[Oracle]

I would stand around and give the Coyotes point blank shots on Scrivens in OT.  Seems like a good strategy to win the game.

Come on, the Leafs have had some amazing OT chances, too.

Absolutely, just that last stretch of play there.  They were standing around and Phoenix was buzzing, they looked a little lost with respect to following the puck.  Gunnarsson has set up a pair of good plays already.  Lombardi has made a few good plays by being patient with the puck.

Thank you  ;D

But yeah, they did look lost on those plays.

Yeah those defensive brain freeze-ups are scary.

 

[pnjunction]

Damn not looking good

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

That was a sick save by Smith on Kessel.

 

[harps64]

Let's cut to the chase here.  Argue all you want to about whether this or that piece of crap is Wilson's fault.  The fact is that the team hasn't gotten it done, and he's been here more than 3 years.  At some point you gas the coach.  Burke should have done it last year but he's letting friendship get in the way of a decision that any other franchise would have made long ago.  End of story.

Before or after you give him a decent goaltender? If we had Nicklas Backstrom or Pekka Rinne we wouldn't even be talking about canning Wilson.

Most coaches in the league can craft a defensive scheme that accounts for less-that-elite goaltending.    He hasn't done it.  And, just in case you have forgotten, he never got it done in SJ with far better goaltending than he got here.

In this league if you don't win, you're gone.  It's well past time to try a different coach.

Let me put the onus on you: What's the downside to firing Wilson?

So how many current coaches have won the cup? Off the top of my head: Mike Babcock, Randy Carlyle, Claude Julien, Joel Quenneville. Any more to add out of a 30 team league?

I'm not saying firing Wilson is a horrible idea. I don't really care for him as a coach. My point is that firing Wilson, imo, will not alleviate the Leafs problems. The goaltending issues will still be there until we get a proper No. 1 in place. The systems are irrelevant when your goalies are scored on on non-scoring chances.

Like I said: Quinn had Belfour and Cujo bail the team out. Burns had Potvin. Every good team has a good goaltender, not vice-versa, at least IMO, unless you want to play the trap like Tampa did.

The Leafs will still have just as many problems without Wilson as they did with Wilson, new systems or not. Maybe it'll kick start the PK% but I think better goaltending will take care of that. The PP needs work and I don't have an answer for that, but I don't know if Wilson is even headmanning that.

No one is talking about winning the cup, getting into the post season or fighting for a top 8 spot would be a step in the right direction.

The reference to SJ is a reference to Wilson not winning the Cup in SJ.

We're above top 8 right now, even with garbage goaltending.

Give the man an extension

Frankly, I don't care if he gets axed. I just don't like the position that firing Wilson will solve all the Leafs' problems.

It was never stated that it would solve all the problems, he has had plenty of time to put his stamp on the team and he has failed. Fact.

 

[bustaheims]

Losing in a shootout is the lamest way to lose.

 

[pnjunction]

Weak sauce Kulemin and it's over

 

[barney_rebel]

We stink dudes.

 

[Deebo]

3 man shoot outs are tough if you get behind.

 

[pnjunction]

Damn if Bozie had a backhand like that we woulda won it