GhostofPotvin29
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I really just wanted to post that article, because Ken Campbell from the Hockey News went on and on last night about how the shootout is NOT a coin flip, it's a skill - but that analysis literally says it's a coin flip.
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Bullfrog said:When it comes to shootouts, really I doubt there's a tremendous amount of difference in skill between most of the players. That's why I don't mind seeing defensemen take shootout attempts. At the NHL level, just about any player will be able to take a shootout attempt at a high skill level.
Zee said:Joe S. said:lc9 said:Good game by the leafs. Would be nice if weren't the worst team ever at shootouts. Reimer isn't a good shootout goalie so I didn't expect to win. But he looked good last night, the shooters looked awful however. Kessel scores two goals and doesn't get to shoot? Stupid.
He stopped 2 of 3, it's not his fault the team lost in a shootout.
However, I will never get worked up over a shootout. I don't care how many years it's been in the league, it's still a dumb gimmick...
There's extra pressure on Reimer since he realizes he has to stop all 3 (and maybe more) cause the Leafs never score on the shootout. Once Bozak missed (only guy to score this year) Reimer knew it was over.
Omallley said:Joe S. said:lc9 said:Good game by the leafs. Would be nice if weren't the worst team ever at shootouts. Reimer isn't a good shootout goalie so I didn't expect to win. But he looked good last night, the shooters looked awful however. Kessel scores two goals and doesn't get to shoot? Stupid.
He stopped 2 of 3, it's not his fault the team lost in a shootout.
However, I will never get worked up over a shootout. I don't care how many years it's been in the league, it's still a dumb gimmick...
Yeah, still not a fan - the overtime was far more exciting..
If you were to adjust the standings to ignore shootout wins (i.e. what the standings would be if the game ended after OT), not too many teams would be impacted - although I was surprised to see which ones would: In the east, the Sens move down 3 spots to 9th, Buffalo moves down to 14th, Winnipeg would be on top of the SE, and Washington would be 7th...
lc9 said:OldTimeHockey said:lc9 said:Good game by the leafs. Would be nice if weren't the worst team ever at shootouts. Reimer isn't a good shootout goalie so I didn't expect to win. But he looked good last night, the shooters looked awful however. Kessel scores two goals and doesn't get to shoot? Stupid.
Reimer being a good or bad shootout goalie has nothing to do with why the team is losing in the shootout. They have 3 combined goals this year..all by Bozak. The goalie has nothing to do with that.
What the heck? Two posts arguing what I said, but actually agreeing with what I said. I said, Reimer looked good, the shooters were awful.
OldTimeHockey said:A better way of saying it would of been..."The Leafs suck in the shootout"
Ummm...I did. I said it would be nice if the Leafs weren't the worst team in shootouts.
Did everyone just read Reimers name and make up what they wanted?
OldTimeHockey said:You said 'Reimer isn't a good shootout goalie'....This is what I took issue with. I don't think we can call Reimer a good shootout goalie or not until he starts getting some run support.
Nik said:OldTimeHockey said:You said 'Reimer isn't a good shootout goalie'....This is what I took issue with. I don't think we can call Reimer a good shootout goalie or not until he starts getting some run support.
Why not? Whether or not the Leafs win the shootout Reimer can still be judged on the shots he faces.
OldTimeHockey said:Well generally I think Reimer's shootout performance has been judged on the horrible record in them which I think has nothing to do with Reimer.
pnjunction said:I missed both of these games on a business trip. Not too broken up about missing another shootout fail, but hey they got 3 of 4 points I'll take it on the whole.
Nik said:OldTimeHockey said:Well generally I think Reimer's shootout performance has been judged on the horrible record in them which I think has nothing to do with Reimer.
Fair enough. Saying that people aren't getting it right isn't quite the same as saying people can't make the judgment at all though.