Game 79: Sabres @ Maple Leafs. 7:00pm. another day, another loss ?

[GhostofPotvin29]

beating the Sabres is good and all, especially if we're screwing them for the playoffs.    But the Lighting, Ilses, and Wild better win their games!!!!!!!!!!

Lightning and Isles lost, and Minny is trailing 3-2 after 2.

The lightning won.

You are correct.  I wonder what team I was looking at, while simultaneously thinking Lightning.  Carolina perhaps.

 

[Tigger]

I think we all know instinctively that players like Finger and Redden are being 'buried' but I can't help but think there could be instances of some players, signed to large (or semi-large) contracts, who legitimately do not make their respective teams. Is someone from the NHL going to step in and tell those teams that they have to count those players against their NHL cap? Will there be some kind of guidelines as to what type of players qualify?

This is the case. If you signed player X to a 3 year/9 million dollar deal then that would be nine million dollars off your cap over the next three years. Even if that player didn't make your team by virtue of skill the idea would be that it was the team's bad luck and they'd have 3 million less to work with.

I get what you are saying. There are certain thresholds (length/amount) that indicate that a contract is an "NHL contract".

No, one way deals would count, period.

If this happened and as of now I don't think it will (never know though) one would think a correction of sorts would be in order, amnesty buyouts or some such.

 

[riff raff]

I think we all know instinctively that players like Finger and Redden are being 'buried' but I can't help but think there could be instances of some players, signed to large (or semi-large) contracts, who legitimately do not make their respective teams. Is someone from the NHL going to step in and tell those teams that they have to count those players against their NHL cap? Will there be some kind of guidelines as to what type of players qualify?

This is the case. If you signed player X to a 3 year/9 million dollar deal then that would be nine million dollars off your cap over the next three years. Even if that player didn't make your team by virtue of skill the idea would be that it was the team's bad luck and they'd have 3 million less to work with.

I get what you are saying. There are certain thresholds (length/amount) that indicate that a contract is an "NHL contract".

No, one way deals would count, period.

If this happened and as of now I don't think it will (never know though) one would think a correction of sorts would be in order, amnesty buyouts or some such.

Especially since some cash-rich teams (like the Leafs) often use one-way contracts to entice players to sign even though they are destined for the minors.

 

[Kin]

If this happened and as of now I don't think it will (never know though) one would think a correction of sorts would be in order, amnesty buyouts or some such.

I wouldn't rule it out but I think the prevailing thought on the owner's side is that what those teams have done is tantamount to circumventing the cap so some of them may not feel as though the richers teams deserve the chance to wiggle out of it.

 

[Tigger]

If this happened and as of now I don't think it will (never know though) one would think a correction of sorts would be in order, amnesty buyouts or some such.

I wouldn't rule it out but I think the prevailing thought on the owner's side is that what those teams have done is tantamount to circumventing the cap so some of them may not feel as though the richers teams deserve the chance to wiggle out of it.

Wouldn't that just be some Brian Burke shaped irony.

 

[riff raff]

If this happened and as of now I don't think it will (never know though) one would think a correction of sorts would be in order, amnesty buyouts or some such.

I wouldn't rule it out but I think the prevailing thought on the owner's side is that what those teams have done is tantamount to circumventing the cap so some of them may not feel as though the richers teams deserve the chance to wiggle out of it.

Without a doubt, it's circumventing the cap.

 

[KW Sluggo]

why can't they do an nfl style deal where not the whole contract is guaranteed?

Non-guaranteed contracts would be  very, very contentious for the PA. The league could try to go that way but that could very well turn these negotiations as ugly or uglier than 04-05.

Yes, it would be my estimation that any attempt to move to non guaranteed contracts would provoke a players strike that would cost more than a season (my guess would be 2 seasons or until the stipulation was withdrawn by management).