Game of Thrones (spoilers duh)

[herman]

What an uneven season that was, and a waste of Sand Snakes.

I agree in general. That stuff in Dorne in particular seemed like it was an episode's worth of material stretched over into a season.

The show is always going to have some of the best moments of TV but it's become wildly uneven and, as I mentioned last year, the grimness of it all has built in my mind from simply being unpleasant to kind of comical.

Outside of the Hardhome episode (Wun Wun!), there was more lame this season than anything.

I was really looking forward to Areo Hotah cleaving someone with his axe-wife.
Plus the atrocious sullying of the might of the Unsullied. They neutered those neuters' fighting prowess with plot contrivance.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

That's cool man, it's one of those shows that I wish I was able to binge watch first time around, the waiting between episodes is brutal.

It's TV heroin.

It really does seem like a show that's best watched all at once. I have some friends who are fans but even they complain a bit about how little things actually happen every season. I can definitely see where they're coming from when you're watching a season over a stretch of 3 or 4 months or however long it is. But for someone who basically did a season a week it actually felt like a really fast-paced show.

 

[Bender]

That's cool man, it's one of those shows that I wish I was able to binge watch first time around, the waiting between episodes is brutal.

It's TV heroin.

It really does seem like a show that's best watched all at once. I have some friends who are fans but even they complain a bit about how little things actually happen every season. I can definitely see where they're coming from when you're watching a season over a stretch of 3 or 4 months or however long it is. But for someone who basically did a season a week it actually felt like a really fast-paced show.

And here's the funny thing. I read the first two books after watching the first three seasons, which I thought was fairly slow. I rewatched seasons 1 and 2 and thought holy hell this is glossing over everything.


Although, yeah, I agree. Except for the finale this season's episodes were weaker than usual and the season itself was probably the worst of them all.

It's odd, I'm actually hopeful that both Jon and Stannis are alive. I think Jon is going to get res'd by Melisandre or Warg Ghost.

I'm actually pretty pissed off at Stannis getting crushed marching to Winterfell. He pulled a Napoleon. Some people dislike Stannis for using bloodmagic and killing his daughter and there are plenty of good reasons for wanting him dead but... I don't know why but the possibility that he died without taking Winterfell and the Boltons are still around just pisses me off.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

It's odd, I'm actually hopeful that both Jon and Stannis are alive. I think Jon is going to get res'd by Melisandre or Warg Ghost.

I'm actually pretty pissed off at Stannis getting crushed marching to Winterfell. He pulled a Napoleon. Some people dislike Stannis for using bloodmagic and killing his daughter and there are plenty of good reasons for wanting him dead but... I don't know why but the possibility that he died without taking Winterfell and the Boltons are still around just pisses me off.

My guess: Jon is missing in the next book/season but comes back for the final book/season. We'll see.

As for Stannis, I liked him up until the whole daughter thing. That crossed a line. Even still though, he was the lesser of two evils when it came to Ramsay so yeah I was hoping he'd take Winterfell there. I don't know what to make of his fate though, cutting away like that was obviously odd. The show runners had to know the fans wouldn't shut up with theories regarding if he's dead or not if they didn't actually show his death.

 

[Bullfrog]

... I don't know what to make of his fate though, cutting away like that was obviously odd. The show runners had to know the fans wouldn't shut up with theories regarding if he's dead or not if they didn't actually show his death.

I thought that was cheesy. I was expecting a narrator to come on and "stay tuned for the next episode..."

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I thought that was cheesy. I was expecting a narrator to come on and "stay tuned for the next episode..."

They've left a lot of deaths somewhat ambiguous before (like the Hound and Arya's "dance" teacher), but yeah like you said it was a very cheesy way to do it.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

What an uneven season that was, and a waste of Sand Snakes.

I agree in general. That stuff in Dorne in particular seemed like it was an episode's worth of material stretched over into a season.

The show is always going to have some of the best moments of TV but it's become wildly uneven and, as I mentioned last year, the grimness of it all has built in my mind from simply being unpleasant to kind of comical.

Outside of the Hardhome episode (Wun Wun!), there was more lame this season than anything.

I was really looking forward to Areo Hotah cleaving someone with his axe-wife.
Plus the atrocious sullying of the might of the Unsullied. They neutered those neuters' fighting prowess with plot contrivance.

Pretty much to be expected with such a spread out story and something like 5 different directors/locations all going.  Hard to make it work all the time and not cut corners on some stories to further the plot.  10 hours a season is not a long time.

 

[Joe S.]

Speaking of dorne and lame my friends and I were talking the other day and I felt that this scene kind of sums up the dorne segments (yes I made this and yes I'm proud of it!)

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAN_wb3V2ks[/YouTube]

 

[Stickytape]

Some people dislike Stannis for using bloodmagic and killing his daughter and there are plenty of good reasons for wanting him dead but...

This is perhaps the most disappointing part of the finale for me. As far as I'm concerned, Stannis' arc ended when he allowed his daughter to be sacrificed (which didn't even seem to be in line with his character). Showing him be defeated in battle, and (apparently, and I'm confident actually) killed was just the writers going through the motions, which made for a pretty dull finale.

 

[Zee]

For someone like myself who has started reading this series long before there was ever a TV show, it's going to be bitter sweet to see the show pass the books and finally find out the end.  In the one sense I want to see how the story ultimately ends, but I wanted that to be through the damn books.  The way Martin writes he'll be long dead before he ever finishes this thing.  The TV show is such a watered down version of the books, but whatever, I guess I'll spoil the books for myself when the time comes.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

For someone like myself who has started reading this series long before there was ever a TV show, it's going to be bitter sweet to see the show pass the books and finally find out the end.  In the one sense I want to see how the story ultimately ends, but I wanted that to be through the damn books.  The way Martin writes he'll be long dead before he ever finishes this thing.  The TV show is such a watered down version of the books, but whatever, I guess I'll spoil the books for myself when the time comes.

It'd actually be pretty cool if the show and the book went in two completely different directions for the ending.

 

[Zee]

For someone like myself who has started reading this series long before there was ever a TV show, it's going to be bitter sweet to see the show pass the books and finally find out the end.  In the one sense I want to see how the story ultimately ends, but I wanted that to be through the damn books.  The way Martin writes he'll be long dead before he ever finishes this thing.  The TV show is such a watered down version of the books, but whatever, I guess I'll spoil the books for myself when the time comes.

It'd actually be pretty cool if the show and the book went in two completely different directions for the ending.

I think the directions to the end will be different, but the ultimate ending should be the same as to who will prevail.

 

[Joe S.]

My understanding is that wolverine is the one true king and we find out they were on earth all along. 

What a twist!

 

[bustaheims]

My understanding is that wolverine is the one true king and we find out they were on earth all along. 

What a twist!

Nah. I've been told by a source close to Martin that the whole thing is just Ned Stark's fever dream. No one actually died. Nothing from midway through the first season actually happened.

 

[Joe S.]

My understanding is that wolverine is the one true king and we find out they were on earth all along. 

What a twist!

Nah. I've been told by a source close to Martin that the whole thing is just Ned Stark's fever dream. No one actually died. Nothing from midway through the first season actually happened.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

My understanding is that wolverine is the one true king and we find out they were on earth all along. 

What a twist!

They actually all died in a plane crash and Westeros is a flash sideways until they all meet again in the afterlife.

We have to go back.

 

[pmrules]

My understanding is that wolverine is the one true king and we find out they were on earth all along. 

What a twist!

They actually all died in a plane crash and Westeros is a flash sideways until they all meet again in the afterlife.

We have to go back.

Sadly...i think the ending for GoT will be just as disappointing as that one was....

 

[Deebo]

They actually all died in a plane crash and Westeros is a flash sideways until they all meet again in the afterlife.

Is that what you think happened on Lost? That the plane crash never happened?

 

[Deebo]

They actually all died in a plane crash and Westeros is a flash sideways until they all meet again in the afterlife.

Is that what you think happened on Lost? That the plane crash never happened?

Sorry, meant to say that what happened after the crash on the island wasn't real

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

They actually all died in a plane crash and Westeros is a flash sideways until they all meet again in the afterlife.

Is that what you think happened on Lost? That the plane crash never happened?

Sorry, meant to say that what happened after the crash on the island wasn't real

No I wasn't trying to be super exact.  I've read this numerous times since the finale: http://screenrant.com/lost-finale-explanation-kofi-61464/