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Floyd said:I'm not entirely familiar with how OCPR formulas are calculated but this me happy nevertheless,
NHL Player Rankings After October
Forwards
1. Phil Kessel, Toronto - 84.63
2. Claude Giroux, Philadelphia - 83.90
3. Anze Kopitar, Los Angeles - 80.69
4. James Neal, Pittsburgh - 78.66
5. Joe Pavelski, San Jose - 77.53
6. Milan Michalek, Ottawa - 77.37
7. Jason Spezza, Ottawa - 76.56
8. Jason Pominville, Buffalo - 74.95
9. Jonathan Toews, Chicago - 74.22
10. Ryan Callahan, NY Rangers - 73.98
Defense
1. Dion Phaneuf, Toronto - 96.29
2. Kris Letang, Pittsburgh - 95.12
3. Alexander Edler, Vancouver - 94.95
4. Ryan Suter, Nashville - 87.38
5. Sami Salo, Vancouver - 84.67
6. Shea Weber, Nashville - 84.60
7. Erik Karlsson, Ottawa - 84.34
8. Kyle Quincey, Colorado - 84.30
9. Jason Garrison, Florida - 84.28
10. Alex Pietrangelo, St. Louis - 83.81
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Edit: Reimer ranked 11th among goalies, BTW. - Not too shabby.
Fanatic said:Some people want to look at the standings and just say "yeah" but others don't mind talking about the really big flaws. After tonight they look even worse.
Kessel - no goals in 4 games and 1 goal in 6
Goals for = 45
Goals Against = 46
PK - 30th
The scoring (or at least the potential for scoring) is great. Kessel, or Lupul, or Grabo, or MacArthur etc. are exciting to watch and they have been scoring some goals. But the D - or the team's defensive play - is just failing badly and it is going from a ild problem to a glaring concern.
I still think on paper they should be able to kill penalties and reduce the goals against. I just do not know why that is not happening.
Fanatic said:Goals for = 45
Goals Against = 46
PK - 30th
The scoring (or at least the potential for scoring) is great. Kessel, or Lupul, or Grabo, or MacArthur etc. are exciting to watch and they have been scoring some goals. But the D - or the team's defensive play - is just failing badly and it is going from a ild problem to a glaring concern.
I still think on paper they should be able to kill penalties and reduce the goals against. I just do not know why that is not happening.
Potvin29 said:
KW Sluggo said:Well... going into the Columbus game I was struck by how similar the the stats were for the PK and PP of the two teams with disparate record. Consider the fact that Columbus has lost some games it should have won as well as some close ones (in addition to the not close at all ones of course) and you get an idea just how little separates worst from first.
We simply are not as good as our record indicates.
As for the trade, on one side of the ledger the Bruins have a Cup and Seguin with Doug Hamilton (allegedly a Rob Blake type but we will see about that) and we have a pretty good scorer.
I am willing to discount the effect of the trade on the Cup win because I believe that the Bruins with Kessel would have been a lot stronger than the Bruins with Seguin at that stage of Segiun's career.
On the other hand, the addition of Kessel to our line up has not translated this team to any great improvement. I do not blame Kessel in the least -- he is playing well and has scored in decent numbers since he arrived,
The fact is that we were way farther away from any respectability than a Kessel. We would have been better building with a Segiun and a Hamilton and making a trade for a missing star some time around next season or possibly at the trade deadline this one.
The prematurity of the Kessel trade has done a disservice to Kessel and to the development of this team. It is like putting lipstick on a pig.
Last night's result may have been extreme but I found it unsurprising. We still need a better roster and we have to go through that "learn to lose" phase in order to learn how to win.
Fanatic said:Some people want to look at the standings and just say "yeah" but others don't mind talking about the really big flaws. After tonight they look even worse.
Kessel - no goals in 4 games and 1 goal in 6
Goals for = 45
Goals Against = 46
PK - 30th
The scoring (or at least the potential for scoring) is great. Kessel, or Lupul, or Grabo, or MacArthur etc. are exciting to watch and they have been scoring some goals. But the D - or the team's defensive play - is just failing badly and it is going from a ild problem to a glaring concern.
I still think on paper they should be able to kill penalties and reduce the goals against. I just do not know why that is not happening.
Zee said:I'm not going to argue that there aren't problems, but goals for/goals against is a bit of a mirage here.
45 for 46 against in 14 games
Take away the 2 absolutely brutal games against the Bruins and it's :
43 for and 33 against in 12 other games -- that is not bad at all.
Zee said:I'm not going to argue that there aren't problems, but goals for/goals against is a bit of a mirage here.
45 for 46 against in 14 games
Take away the 2 absolutely brutal games against the Bruins and it's :
43 for and 33 against in 12 other games -- that is not bad at all.
Fanatic said:Zee said:I'm not going to argue that there aren't problems, but goals for/goals against is a bit of a mirage here.
45 for 46 against in 14 games
Take away the 2 absolutely brutal games against the Bruins and it's :
43 for and 33 against in 12 other games -- that is not bad at all.
The problem, of course, is that in the real world you cannot take away any games, let alone both games vs. Boston.
Potvin29 said:It reminds me of why, for whatever reason, Brodeur's regular season numbers were never that good against us, even when our team was poor. He could be great against everyone else, and then against us it would be different.
Zee said:Fanatic said:Some people want to look at the standings and just say "yeah" but others don't mind talking about the really big flaws. After tonight they look even worse.
Kessel - no goals in 4 games and 1 goal in 6
Goals for = 45
Goals Against = 46
PK - 30th
The scoring (or at least the potential for scoring) is great. Kessel, or Lupul, or Grabo, or MacArthur etc. are exciting to watch and they have been scoring some goals. But the D - or the team's defensive play - is just failing badly and it is going from a ild problem to a glaring concern.
I still think on paper they should be able to kill penalties and reduce the goals against. I just do not know why that is not happening.
I'm not going to argue that there aren't problems, but goals for/goals against is a bit of a mirage here.
45 for 46 against in 14 games
Take away the 2 absolutely brutal games against the Bruins and it's :
43 for and 33 against in 12 other games -- that is not bad at all.