General Leafs Talk

[Stronger Than All]

Which leaf do you miss the most? I still think back of the times when we had Gilmour, my favourite player of all time :'( just read about him on the official site. He was the reason why I became a leaf fan.

Excepting Kessel, the entire 2011-12 leafs team.  They took off at game 4 and I havent seen them since.

Seriously, where's the panic button, this worst i've ever seen the leafs play (I think i said it this time last year) so sad...

And I don't really care if they win, I just want to watch a good game of hockey.........

Yeah, none of the lines are really showing up except for Kessel's line, only because Kessel and Lupul are playing with some great chemistry right now.

Sometimes I don't even realize who's centering Kessel and Lupul.

 

[Bender]

Which leaf do you miss the most? I still think back of the times when we had Gilmour, my favourite player of all time :'( just read about him on the official site. He was the reason why I became a leaf fan.

Excepting Kessel, the entire 2011-12 leafs team.  They took off at game 4 and I havent seen them since.

Seriously, where's the panic button, this worst i've ever seen the leafs play (I think i said it this time last year) so sad...

And I don't really care if they win, I just want to watch a good game of hockey.........

Yeah, none of the lines are really showing up except for Kessel's line, only because Kessel and Lupul are playing with some great chemistry right now.

Sometimes I don't even realize who's centering Kessel and Lupul.

I think TC did a pretty good job when he was here. Pretty shifty, did a good job of distributing the puck. Bozak has looked invisible.

 

[Britishbulldog]

Sometimes I don't even realize who's centering Kessel and Lupul.

I think TC did a pretty good job when he was here. Pretty shifty, did a good job of distributing the puck. Bozak has looked invisible.

I also was impressed with Connolly.  He actually made me think that we had heard the last of the E Staal, Spezza, Getzlaf, etc trades for awhile.

Unfortunately he can't seem to stay healthy.

 

[Bender]

Sometimes I don't even realize who's centering Kessel and Lupul.

I think TC did a pretty good job when he was here. Pretty shifty, did a good job of distributing the puck. Bozak has looked invisible.

I also was impressed with Connolly.  He actually made me think that we had heard the last of the E Staal, Spezza, Getzlaf, etc trades for awhile.

Unfortunately he can't seem to stay healthy.

On the plus side, Dregs said he's possible for tomorrow. If not then Thursday latest.

 

[Redleaf]

What about bringing Aulie back into the fold? He was pretty solid defensively last season. That is precisely what we are lacking of late. Maybe send down Gardiner and give Keith a shot. What can it hurt?

 

[bustaheims]

What about bringing Aulie back into the fold? He was pretty solid defensively last season. That is precisely what we are lacking of late. Maybe send down Gardiner and give Keith a shot. What can it hurt?

He's played pretty poorly for the Marlies so far. Not sure he'd be an improvement in an area other than size.

 

[Omallley]

What about bringing Aulie back into the fold? He was pretty solid defensively last season. That is precisely what we are lacking of late. Maybe send down Gardiner and give Keith a shot. What can it hurt?

He's played pretty poorly for the Marlies so far. Not sure he'd be an improvement in an area other than size.

By and far the worst +/- on the Marlies, and a pretty off pre-season...I suspect he's going to need to turn it around before he gets a callup.

 

[leafplasma]

What about bringing Aulie back into the fold? He was pretty solid defensively last season. That is precisely what we are lacking of late. Maybe send down Gardiner and give Keith a shot. What can it hurt?

He's played pretty poorly for the Marlies so far. Not sure he'd be an improvement in an area other than size.

By and far the worst +/- on the Marlies, and a pretty off pre-season...I suspect he's going to need to turn it around before he gets a callup.

Yes and last night was his first game back after an injury and low and behold he was a -2 .

 

[Stebro]

Some interesting stats:

Phaneuf 1 point in his last 7 games
MacArthur 0 points in his last 4 games
Kulemin 0 points in his last 4 games
Lombardi 0 points in his 5 last games
Liles 1 point in his last 4 games
Grabovski 0 points in his last 4 games
Gardiner 0 points in his 4 last games
Komisarek 0 points in his 5 last games
Steckel 0 points in his last 9 games
Brown 0 points in his last 8 games
Crabb 0 points in his last 4 games
Frattin 0 points in his last 6 games
Dupuis 0 points in his last 15 games

Imagine if Kessel or Lupul or both would get hurt, then we would be lucky to average 1 goal per game

We could talk about poor d and poor goaltending, but I mean the rest can't produce this bad.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Just to nikpick, Komisarek not having a point in 5 games is not really 'interesting' and moreso expected.

 

[Stebro]

Just to nikpick, Komisarek not having a point in 5 games is not really 'interesting' and moreso expected.

Sure, some of those are not expected to produce, but it's still pretty crappy that they have a combined 2 points.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Just to nikpick, Komisarek not having a point in 5 games is not really 'interesting' and moreso expected.

Sure, some of those are not expected to produce, but it's still pretty crappy that they have a combined 2 points.

I don't disagree that they've been slumping offensively the past few games, but some of them are weird # of games choices.  Like Liles - 1 point in 4 games, but 3 in his last 6 and 7 in his last 11.

I'm mostly worried about the Grabovski line turning their totals around, and hopefully they do so the next few games so we can see those stats in the opposite direction.

 

[Stebro]

Just to nikpick, Komisarek not having a point in 5 games is not really 'interesting' and moreso expected.

Sure, some of those are not expected to produce, but it's still pretty crappy that they have a combined 2 points.

I don't disagree that they've been slumping offensively the past few games, but some of them are weird # of games choices.  Like Liles - 1 point in 4 games, but 3 in his last 6 and 7 in his last 11.

I'm mostly worried about the Grabovski line turning their totals around, and hopefully they do so the next few games so we can see those stats in the opposite direction.

Blame TSN That's where I checked. I think that they should split up the Grabovski line. To be honest I think we should try splitting up Kessel and Lupul too, even if they're finding eachother, we need more balanced scoring. I think that we should move Kulemin to the 3rd or 4th line. And I think that Lombardi should get a chance at the 1st or 2nd.

 

[Bender]

Just to nikpick, Komisarek not having a point in 5 games is not really 'interesting' and moreso expected.

Sure, some of those are not expected to produce, but it's still pretty crappy that they have a combined 2 points.

I don't disagree that they've been slumping offensively the past few games, but some of them are weird # of games choices.  Like Liles - 1 point in 4 games, but 3 in his last 6 and 7 in his last 11.

I'm mostly worried about the Grabovski line turning their totals around, and hopefully they do so the next few games so we can see those stats in the opposite direction.

Blame TSN That's where I checked. I think that they should split up the Grabovski line. To be honest I think we should try splitting up Kessel and Lupul too, even if they're finding eachother, we need more balanced scoring. I think that we should move Kulemin to the 3rd or 4th line. And I think that Lombardi should get a chance at the 1st or 2nd.

You're asking for more struggles if you break up Lupul and Kessel. Why mess with a scoring formula?

 

[Stebro]

Just to nikpick, Komisarek not having a point in 5 games is not really 'interesting' and moreso expected.

Sure, some of those are not expected to produce, but it's still pretty crappy that they have a combined 2 points.

I don't disagree that they've been slumping offensively the past few games, but some of them are weird # of games choices.  Like Liles - 1 point in 4 games, but 3 in his last 6 and 7 in his last 11.

I'm mostly worried about the Grabovski line turning their totals around, and hopefully they do so the next few games so we can see those stats in the opposite direction.

Blame TSN That's where I checked. I think that they should split up the Grabovski line. To be honest I think we should try splitting up Kessel and Lupul too, even if they're finding eachother, we need more balanced scoring. I think that we should move Kulemin to the 3rd or 4th line. And I think that Lombardi should get a chance at the 1st or 2nd.

You're asking for more struggles if you break up Lupul and Kessel. Why mess with a scoring formula?

Well we can't have one line that scores only, and I think it would be good with a little shakeup. Kessel will score anyways, Lupul? Hopefully. But the Grabovski line must be split imo, Kulemin is looking crappy, and McArthur is not very consistant.

 

[Omallley]

Well we can't have one line that scores only, and I think it would be good with a little shakeup. Kessel will score anyways, Lupul? Hopefully. But the Grabovski line must be split imo, Kulemin is looking crappy, and McArthur is not very consistant.

I could be completely off, because I have been disconnected from these parts for a while, but of all players not scoring, Kulemin has not looked crappy to me. He's looked snakebit, but solid - a lot more solid than his offensive totals indicate.

 

[AvroArrow]

I'd like to see Grabovski with Kessel and Lupul, and Connolly with Kulemin and MacArthur.  If Connolly can't get them going, then I'm not sure what to do with those two.  We need them firing now.

 

[Stebro]

Well we can't have one line that scores only, and I think it would be good with a little shakeup. Kessel will score anyways, Lupul? Hopefully. But the Grabovski line must be split imo, Kulemin is looking crappy, and McArthur is not very consistant.

I could be completely off, because I have been disconnected from these parts for a while, but of all players not scoring, Kulemin has not looked crappy to me. He's looked snakebit, but solid - a lot more solid than his offensive totals indicate.

I have watched most games lately, but not all so I could also have missed seeing him playing well. But in the games I've watched I have barely noticed Kulemin. Grabovski is noticeable though.

 

[Bender]

Just to nikpick, Komisarek not having a point in 5 games is not really 'interesting' and moreso expected.

Sure, some of those are not expected to produce, but it's still pretty crappy that they have a combined 2 points.

I don't disagree that they've been slumping offensively the past few games, but some of them are weird # of games choices.  Like Liles - 1 point in 4 games, but 3 in his last 6 and 7 in his last 11.

I'm mostly worried about the Grabovski line turning their totals around, and hopefully they do so the next few games so we can see those stats in the opposite direction.

Blame TSN That's where I checked. I think that they should split up the Grabovski line. To be honest I think we should try splitting up Kessel and Lupul too, even if they're finding eachother, we need more balanced scoring. I think that we should move Kulemin to the 3rd or 4th line. And I think that Lombardi should get a chance at the 1st or 2nd.

You're asking for more struggles if you break up Lupul and Kessel. Why mess with a scoring formula?

Well we can't have one line that scores only, and I think it would be good with a little shakeup. Kessel will score anyways, Lupul? Hopefully. But the Grabovski line must be split imo, Kulemin is looking crappy, and McArthur is not very consistant.

Lupul hopefully? Do you not think that Kessel's success has something to do with playing with Lupul and vice-versa? Its not a surprise that Lupul and Kessel are top of the team regardless of who the centre is - and Bozak clearly isn't that big a beneficiary. Connolly will be back soon and they've shown enough success to keep them together. If you need to jumble the second and third lines then that's fine, but to jumble up our best scoring line because our second line isn't scoring is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[Stebro]

Just to nikpick, Komisarek not having a point in 5 games is not really 'interesting' and moreso expected.

Sure, some of those are not expected to produce, but it's still pretty crappy that they have a combined 2 points.

I don't disagree that they've been slumping offensively the past few games, but some of them are weird # of games choices.  Like Liles - 1 point in 4 games, but 3 in his last 6 and 7 in his last 11.

I'm mostly worried about the Grabovski line turning their totals around, and hopefully they do so the next few games so we can see those stats in the opposite direction.

Blame TSN That's where I checked. I think that they should split up the Grabovski line. To be honest I think we should try splitting up Kessel and Lupul too, even if they're finding eachother, we need more balanced scoring. I think that we should move Kulemin to the 3rd or 4th line. And I think that Lombardi should get a chance at the 1st or 2nd.

You're asking for more struggles if you break up Lupul and Kessel. Why mess with a scoring formula?

Well we can't have one line that scores only, and I think it would be good with a little shakeup. Kessel will score anyways, Lupul? Hopefully. But the Grabovski line must be split imo, Kulemin is looking crappy, and McArthur is not very consistant.

Lupul hopefully? Do you not think that Kessel's success has something to do with playing with Lupul and vice-versa? Its not a surprise that Lupul and Kessel are top of the team regardless of who the centre is - and Bozak clearly isn't that big a beneficiary. Connolly will be back soon and they've shown enough success to keep them together. If you need to jumble the second and third lines then that's fine, but to jumble up our best scoring line because our second line isn't scoring is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Well the problem is if that other teams shut down our first line, then we are done.