Grabovski Bought Out

[brothert]

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 6m
Just got off the phone with Grabovski: "Of course I feel [expletive] sad, I played [expletive] five years here."

I think this is a bad move if free agency is nothing less than fantastic. I think his energetic style was a bit like dynamite. Sometimes it worked in the leafs favour sometimes it blew up in their face. There was more than a few  nights over the past five years where it looked like he was the only one interested in getting a W when some guys were saving their energy for the next game. I will miss him and wish him well. I expect that Kulemin is going to have an absolutely brutal year with the leafs next year. Unless of course he's on the way out too. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 9s
Grabovski had some pretty blistering remarks toward Leafs coach Randy Carlyle. Called him a "stupid coach" among other things.

CLear message sent today - buy into what Carlyle is selling or you're gone.

When didn't Grabovski buy into what Carlyle was selling though? Carlyle put him in a role that he never played in before in his entire career and Grabovski made it work.

 

[princedpw]

I'm late to this thread so I'm sure I'm not saying anything a variety of people haven't said already (and I know there will be differing opinions on this) but I'll kill myself if they buy out Grabbo and then resign Bozak to a substantial contract.

 

[Frank E]

We have the worst coach/GM duo in the league.

I think that's premature. Or, maybe you're just being sarcastic.

Oh, no sarcasm from me this time. I genuinely feel they are at least one of the worst coach/GM duos in the league. I pray I'm wrong about this, but right now I'm really upset that Connor McDavid wasn't born a year earlier.

Now now, we were within 5 minutes of round 2 this year.

Carlyle is tough, but I think he's pretty fair.  He's not one to throw his players under the bus, and keeps it in the room.

Give Nonis some rope, we don't know what the plan is here.

 

[Frank E]

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 9s
Grabovski had some pretty blistering remarks toward Leafs coach Randy Carlyle. Called him a "stupid coach" among other things.

CLear message sent today - buy into what Carlyle is selling or you're gone.

When didn't Grabovski buy into what Carlyle was selling though? Carlyle put him in a role that he never played in before in his entire career and Grabovski made it work.

Grabbo had issues in Montreal too...so let's not point too many fingers at Carlyle.

 

[Bender]

We have the worst coach/GM duo in the league.

I think that's premature. Or, maybe you're just being sarcastic.

Oh, no sarcasm from me this time. I genuinely feel they are at least one of the worst coach/GM duos in the league. I pray I'm wrong about this, but right now I'm really upset that Connor McDavid wasn't born a year earlier.

There's no way we would compare with Vigneault/Gillis or Feaster/Hartley.

I want to see what is done in the off season before I make any judgments. But I am like the rest of you: If this is to make space for Bozak and Clarkson then I'll be pretty pissed.

At the same time, he DID have a horrific season last year... but lots of caveats there. I want to wait til the dust settles.

 

[Seymore Pucks]

I'm late to this thread so I'm sure I'm not saying anything a variety of people haven't said already (and I know there will be differing opinions on this) but I'll kill myself if they buy out Grabbo and then resign Bozak to a substantial contract.

I think everyone would agree with you.  Nonis surely isnt that stupid.  Over to the C Bear to commnet on that.

 

[Seymore Pucks]

Siegel on TSN radio now.

 

[drummond]

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 9s
Grabovski had some pretty blistering remarks toward Leafs coach Randy Carlyle. Called him a "stupid coach" among other things.

CLear message sent today - buy into what Carlyle is selling or you're gone.

When didn't Grabovski buy into what Carlyle was selling though? Carlyle put him in a role that he never played in before in his entire career and Grabovski made it work.

Grabbo apparently complained...

 

[maplesyrup]

We have the worst coach/GM duo in the league.

I think that's premature. Or, maybe you're just being sarcastic.

Oh, no sarcasm from me this time. I genuinely feel they are at least one of the worst coach/GM duos in the league. I pray I'm wrong about this, but right now I'm really upset that Connor McDavid wasn't born a year earlier.

Okay but I mean, we haven't even hit free agency and there's not telling what the roster will look like come the fall.

 

[drummond]

Hoped someone came with stats like that
http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=6207

The article is showing how the 18 Maple Leafs with at least 200 minutes with both Bozak and Grabovski did with them over the past five years.

Conclusion - surprise, surprise..

17 out of the 18 Maple Leafs to play at least 200 minutes with both guys did better in terms their GF/GA ratio when they were on the ice with Grabovski.

18 out of 18 Maple Leafs who played at least 200 minutes with both guys did better in terms of their Corsi% with Grabovski.

 

[ZBBM]

Way to ruin my holiday, Nonis.

What a supremely stupid move.  Liles (who I happen to think is OK FWIW) would have been the guy to buy out because of Gardiner and Rielly coming on.

I just hope they aren't building the team according to whether or not Carlyle "likes" a player because you never know how long he'll be the coach.

 

[Seymore Pucks]

Siegel said that Grabs was unhappy playing 3rd line and no dialogue with Carlye.  This team will be void of Russian players...that is the direction.

 

[TML fan]

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 9s
Grabovski had some pretty blistering remarks toward Leafs coach Randy Carlyle. Called him a "stupid coach" among other things.

CLear message sent today - buy into what Carlyle is selling or you're gone.

When didn't Grabovski buy into what Carlyle was selling though? Carlyle put him in a role that he never played in before in his entire career and Grabovski made it work.

Grabbo had issues in Montreal too...so let's not point too many fingers at Carlyle.

I agree with Grabovski.

 

[Frank E]

Way to ruin my holiday, Nonis.

What a supremely stupid move.  Liles (who I happen to think is OK FWIW) would have been the guy to buy out because of Gardiner and Rielly coming on.

I just hope they aren't building the team according to whether or not Carlyle "likes" a player because you never know how long he'll be the coach.

You know that these are professionals right?  This is a performance based business, and Carlyle will be judged on his record.  Secondly, if Nonis was such a Grabbo proponent, he could have kept him and told Carlyle to "deal with it."

Siegel said that Grabs was unhappy playing 3rd line and no dialogue with Carlye.  This team will be void of Russian players...that is the direction.

Why?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

There's no way we would compare with Vigneault/Gillis or Feaster/Hartley.

Well Vigneault was fired (and I don't think deserves to be in the worst coach conversation), and I couldn't remember who coached Calgary for the life of me. So we're #2.

 

[Fanatic]

Jonas Siegel

A taste of Grabovski on Carlyle: "Don?t put me on a [expletive] third line and then [expletive] play [me] six minutes in a game."

 

[brothert]

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 9s
Grabovski had some pretty blistering remarks toward Leafs coach Randy Carlyle. Called him a "stupid coach" among other things.

CLear message sent today - buy into what Carlyle is selling or you're gone.

When didn't Grabovski buy into what Carlyle was selling though? Carlyle put him in a role that he never played in before in his entire career and Grabovski made it work.

Grabbo had issues in Montreal too...so let's not point too many fingers at Carlyle.

I agree with Grabovski.

+1
I've had issues with MTL since I moved here in 1980. I wouldn't hold that against grabbo. He was probably asked to use french more and he said mange m*rd* 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Grabbo apparently complained...

That's different from not buying into a system. Grabs did everything Carlyle asked of him on the ice.

 

[drummond]

Grabbo apparently complained...

That's different from not buying into a system. Grabs did everything Carlyle asked of him on the ice.

And what Carlyle did, drove him out of town...