LuncheonMeat
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There's only one thing left to do. Trade Phaneuf for Weber as both players obviously need a fresh start.
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LuncheonMeat said:There's only one thing left to do. Trade Phaneuf for Weber as both players obviously need a fresh start.
Potvin29 said:Do you live in a world where you think other D, even top D, don't get burned during the season?
Do you really think it is fair to cherry pick two plays to form an opinion on a player?
Potvin29 said:EDIT: I don't get all the Shea Weber love:
CarltonTheBear said:Potvin29 said:EDIT: I don't get all the Shea Weber love:
You picked a bad example as that is a pretty fair statement
Potvin29 said:Is he considered overrated?
Potvin29 said:Do you live in a world where you think other D, even top D, don't get burned during the season?
Do you really think it is fair to cherry pick two plays to form an opinion on a player?
EDIT: I don't get all the Shea Weber love:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4ql1PNZd0[/youtube]
CarltonTheBear said:Analytics aren't very kind to him. He's largely just overrated because of how highly others see him. He probably shouldn't really be mentioned in the top-5, and his play is starting to decline.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Phaneuf....deserves the C, an effective leader.
AvroArrow said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Phaneuf....deserves the C, an effective leader.
Weren't you saying the exact opposite last year (apologies if it wasn't you - you can disregard)? What changed that suddenly makes him an effective leader?
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:AvroArrow said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Phaneuf....deserves the C, an effective leader.
Weren't you saying the exact opposite last year (apologies if it wasn't you - you can disregard)? What changed that suddenly makes him an effective leader?
Yes, it was me.
I suppose it's this: finally working under a coach and a system that the players understand and support has provided him with objectives that he can help convey to the team more effectively.
CarltonTheBear said:Potvin29 said:Rielly's definitely getting handed the tough assignments/zone starts. Even still he's got the same 5v5 points as Doughty, Phaneuf, Weber, Stralman to name a few. I think his usage is making his offensive contribution seem less than it maybe has been.
Yeah I did my classic "look things up after I hit post" maneuver and was actually surprised to see how many points Rielly has. On pace for just under 40, which is pretty great considering his lack of regular powerplay time. I'm just not seeing him carry the puck into the offensive zone or attack as much as I did in October. I mean, he hasn't forgotten how to do it, it still happens from time to time. Especially late in games when we're trailing. So again that would suggest he might have been told to play a little more conservative.
Rielly's probably the personification of the pain Babcock was talking about in the rebuild. He's being forced to adjust to top pairing, top competition minutes. Maybe it's hurting his play today but in the long-term he'll hopefully be better because of it.
hobarth said:As 1st liners Koma and Kadri sure aren't scoring at a 1st line pace, if they were as productive as they are as the 2nd line of better teams they would probably receive B- grades. If Koma were playing on a 3rd line somewhere and scoring like he is, he'd be an A but he's not.
losveratos said:hobarth said:As 1st liners Koma and Kadri sure aren't scoring at a 1st line pace, if they were as productive as they are as the 2nd line of better teams they would probably receive B- grades. If Koma were playing on a 3rd line somewhere and scoring like he is, he'd be an A but he's not.
Pretty sure you did absolutely nothing to substantiate that (Specifically Komarov) claim other than the tugging of information from between your buttcheeks.
Seeing as he's currently 42nd in goals scored and 79th in points. and I'm pretty sure that it takes 90 forwards to make up the leagues 30 first liners, deserving of the title or not.
I'm certainly not however going to argue with you about kadri though.