Idiocracy 2024

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Good riddance Genocide Joe.

You do remember who his opponent is, right?

I do not give a singular f*ck.

He's a genocidal geriatric piece of excrement who has been a pox on American politics for 50 years.

Any coherent adult will beat Trump.

It's just comical to me to give Biden that title and not Trump who would give Netanyahu absolute carte blanche to do anything he wanted.

Your claim about Trump right now is hypothetical, largely I agree that he would be worse if he was in charge.

However, Biden has literally been complicit in a Genocide, had the power to do something and didn't.

 

[Bender]

It's just comical to me to give Biden that title and not Trump who would give Netanyahu absolute carte blanche to do anything he wanted.

It doesn?t really matter who is in the Whitehouse, Bibi is going to do whatever he wants. That?s who he is. The difference is that Trump would get involved in a way that would have conflict escalate throughout the region in a much more significant way than it has.

That's my point though. You have only two choices, Biden or Trump and the outcome of Trump would have led the conflict in the region to be much worse. As well he has the evangelical vote so, while Bibi will do whatever he wants anyway, he would have a lot more support from the WH in doing so. And beyond that I personally don't think Biden is genocidal whereas I don't think Trump cares about human life really in any capacity beyond his own.

 

[Bender]

Good riddance Genocide Joe.

You do remember who his opponent is, right?

I do not give a singular f*ck.

He's a genocidal geriatric piece of excrement who has been a pox on American politics for 50 years.

Any coherent adult will beat Trump.

It's just comical to me to give Biden that title and not Trump who would give Netanyahu absolute carte blanche to do anything he wanted.

Your claim about Trump right now is hypothetical, largely I agree that he would be worse if he was in charge.

However, Biden has literally been complicit in a Genocide, had the power to do something and didn't.

When you have zero sum choices and have to evaluate whether the other option would've been better, it is of course hypothetical, but you still have to try to make an honest evaluation. "Biden's first term is likely a better outcome than if Trump had a second term" is hypothetical, but I think very much discussable.

It's hard to imagine a world in which any President had the power to "do something" about what Bibi is doing in the middle east and largely mitigate it, but it is very easy to imagine a world in which the alternative is much worse than what we've already seen (evangelical vote, moving consulate to Jerusalem, love for "strongmen" types etc.)

 

[bustaheims]

That's my point though. You have only two choices, Biden or Trump and the outcome of Trump would have led the conflict in the region to be much worse. As well he has the evangelical vote so, while Bibi will do whatever he wants anyway, he would have a lot more support from the WH in doing so. And beyond that I personally don't think Biden is genocidal whereas I don't think Trump cares about human life really in any capacity beyond his own.

Agreed. I have issues with the moniker Genocide Joe for a number of reasons I'm not going to get into here, but, regardless of people's feelings towards him and his party, there's no question in my mind the Democrats represent the lesser of the two potential evils by a wide margin.

 

[princedpw]

There are a lot of dimensions in which one might want Biden to be more left wing.  The solution to that isn?t to install the hard-right sociopath.

 

[bustaheims]

There are a lot of dimensions in which one might want Biden to be more left wing.  The solution to that isn?t to install the hard-right sociopath.

As people have been emphasizing since 2016, an election is not a marriage. You're voting to chose the best available option for the time being, you're shouldn't expect to find an ideal partner. It's a relatively short-term commitment. Eschewing a flawed but generally decent candidate only leads to much worse results.

In 2016, too many progressives cut off their nose to spite their face by not voting for Hillary. I had hoped they had learned their lesson, but, the last few weeks definitely made me unsure about that. The way the Democrats seem to be coalescing around Harris is encouraging there, though.

 

[herman]

I don?t know if it was on purpose, but Biden absorbing a lot of the negative attention and then springboarding Harris to the Democratic Party nomination with a nearly clean slate (i.e. sans intraparty fighting that an open selection would yield), all the funding, and with the Republicans more empty of consequential attack points than usual (along with significant capital sunk on pointless ads and merch) is about as good as they could ask for following the attention around the assassination attempt.

 

[herman]

https://x.com/jaydgoat/status/1816878734336503814
Most days I bemoan the timeline that we are on, but every so often?

 

[herman]

https://x.com/acyn/status/1817007890496102490
Nvm, very much still in the Bad Place

 

[Bender]

I don?t know if it was on purpose, but Biden absorbing a lot of the negative attention and then springboarding Harris to the Democratic Party nomination with a nearly clean slate (i.e. sans intraparty fighting that an open selection would yield), all the funding, and with the Republicans more empty of consequential attack points than usual (along with significant capital sunk on pointless ads and merch) is about as good as they could ask for following the attention around the assassination attempt.

Maybe, but for me the issue is she will eventually come to represent the existing administration. Sure Biden was old, but the administration itself has not been that popular either even though a lot of the issues like inflation weren't caused by the administration.

 

[herman]

https://x.com/_llebrun/status/1820160573549801848

 

[Bender]

https://twitter.com/_llebrun/status/1820160573549801848

I mean do people even use Twitter for real information anymore?

 

[bustaheims]

I mean do people even use Twitter for real information anymore?

It's okay for sports stuff, as long as you only follow people who are actually employed by major networks/news outlets.

 

[herman]

I mean do people even use Twitter for real information anymore?

I don't know where I would've found out about Four Seasons Total Landscaping otherwise.

 

[herman]

Tim Walz won the Veepstakes!

Most known at this moment for kickstarting the Democratic media approach to calling the GOP worldview 'weird'.

This talk might shed more light on his approach and philosophy; huge map nerd (which informs and directs policy/comms/resource deployment)
https://twitter.com/deepseadawn/status/1820811416032641429

 

[herman]

https://x.com/KeneAkers/status/1822840494868861196
lmao

 

[herman]

https://x.com/CBCNews/status/1832004522337513915

 

[L K]

Sure I took millions of dollars in funding but I have absolutely no idea where it came from and it just so happens that I randomly support lies that promote how great Russia is.  But I had absolutely no idea that the money came from a Russian organization that promotes Russian propaganda.

My toddler lies better than this.

 

[herman]

It's also amazing (to me) that all this stuff (waves hands at last 8+ years) has radicalized Dean Blundell of all people and not in the direction I would've expected.

 

[Zee]

It's also amazing (to me) that all this stuff (waves hands at last 8+ years) has radicalized Dean Blundell of all people and not in the direction I would've expected.

I was amazed by this as well, I would have never pegged him as left leaning.