Iginla Traded to Pittsburgh

[iwas11in67]

just for fun..what Toronto prospects are similiar to what Pittsburgh gave up?

 

[Kin]

Feaster is an idiot, this should have happened 2 years ago not now.  Could have gotten more for Iginla back then and be well on his way to actually starting a rebuild.

Perhaps Iginla wasn't prepared to be traded then?

Also, Feaster was only officially hired on as permanent GM  in May of '11. Unless he was specifically directed to blow up the team as acting GM he really had no mandate to start the process and the best he could have done with blowing up the club is last year.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

just for fun..what Toronto prospects are similiar to what Pittsburgh gave up?

I'd say McKegg and D'Amigo sound about right.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

This is probably akin to the Leafs giving up something like Tom Nilsson and Korbinian Holzer for Iginla.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Apparently the 1st round draft pick that Boston was offering was conditional on Iginla re-signing with the Bruins. They have a bit of cap room, but Rask needs a new contract and he'll likely eat up a bunch of that. So Iginla re-signing wasn't a foregone conclusion.

If that's the case then it makes the Penguins offer seem a little better in comparison. If they weren't going to get a top prospect from the deal they at least needed to secure a first round draft pick.

 

[Omallley]

You've got to think this puts a little more pressure on teams to make a move (especially Boston). I'm still surprised the Pens have been as aggressive as they have been...

 

[bustaheims]

Apparently the 1st round draft pick that Boston was offering was conditional on Iginla re-signing with the Bruins. They have a bit of cap room, but Rask needs a new contract and he'll likely eat up a bunch of that. So Iginla re-signing wasn't a foregone conclusion.

If that's the case then it makes the Penguins offer seem a little better in comparison. If they weren't going to get a teams top-5 prospect from the deal they at least needed to secure a first round draft pick.

Wow. I can't believe Feaster was even willing to accept that deal with the pick being conditional. Neither of the prospects Boston was offering were exactly top notch guys either. I know Bruins fans are big on Khoklachev, but, every team has a guy like that in their system. I'd say he's probably their Greg McKegg.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

You've got to think this puts a little more pressure on teams to make a move (especially Boston). I'm still surprised the Pens have been as aggressive as they have been...

Apparently Shero mentioned last night that they still have cap space and don't think they are done.

Scary, I wonder if the chemistry in the room might be changed by the additions, one would think the fact these guys are character guys might help.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Apparently the 1st round draft pick that Boston was offering was conditional on Iginla re-signing with the Bruins. They have a bit of cap room, but Rask needs a new contract and he'll likely eat up a bunch of that. So Iginla re-signing wasn't a foregone conclusion.

If that's the case then it makes the Penguins offer seem a little better in comparison. If they weren't going to get a teams top-5 prospect from the deal they at least needed to secure a first round draft pick.

Wow. I can't believe Feaster was even willing to accept that deal with the pick being conditional. Neither of the prospects Boston was offering were exactly top notch guys either. I know Bruins fans are big on Khoklachev, but, every team has a guy like that in their system. I'd say he's probably their Greg McKegg.

Khoklachev is generally considered a top-5 prospect for Boston, although I think that's partially because after Hamilton their prospect pool tapers off a little bit. Still, I think Colborne would be a better comparable here.

 

[bustaheims]

Khoklachev is generally considered a top-5 prospect for Boston, although I think that's partially because after Hamilton their prospect pool tapers off a little bit. Still, I think Colborne would be a better comparable here.

I'd say the serious difference between the size of Colborne and the size of Khoklachev makes them pretty weak comparables. McKegg and Khoklachev are both smaller, skilled centres.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Khoklachev is generally considered a top-5 prospect for Boston, although I think that's partially because after Hamilton their prospect pool tapers off a little bit. Still, I think Colborne would be a better comparable here.

I'd say the serious difference between the size of Colborne and the size of Khoklachev makes them pretty weak comparables. McKegg and Khoklachev are both smaller, skilled centres.

Maybe in terms of the type of player but in terms of value/upside Khoklachev is a lot closer to Colborne. Just generally speaking most people project Colborne and Koko to be above-average second line centres. And they're both top-5 prospects on their teams. McKegg probably only barely cracks Toronto's top-10 if I had to rank them now, and while his upside is also a 2nd line centre he's a lot less likely to reach that.

 

[Rebel_1812]

Wow, i wake up this morning and Iginla was traded from boston to pittsburgh ;-)

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So where exactly does Iginla play now? Bylsma likely won't break up Malkin and Neal, so it's either on the first line with Crosby or on the third line with Sutter and Cooke.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis/Iginla
Morrow-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Iginla/Dupuis

Personally, I would leave Iginla on the third line, at least to start. It's not like the first line is having difficulties scoring with Kunitz and Crosby anyway.

 

[Deebo]

So where exactly does Iginla play now? Bylsma likely won't break up Malkin and Neal, so it's either on the first line with Crosby or on the third line with Sutter and Cooke.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis/Iginla
Morrow-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Iginla/Dupuis

Personally, I would leave Iginla on the third line, at least to start. It's not like the first line is having difficulties scoring with Kunitz and Crosby anyway.

I'd put him on the top line with Kunitz and Crosby.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

So where exactly does Iginla play now? Bylsma likely won't break up Malkin and Neal, so it's either on the first line with Crosby or on the third line with Sutter and Cooke.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis/Iginla
Morrow-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Iginla/Dupuis

Personally, I would leave Iginla on the third line, at least to start. It's not like the first line is having difficulties scoring with Kunitz and Crosby anyway.

I'd put him on the top line with Kunitz and Crosby.

Likewise, Cooke-Sutter-Dupuis looks like a formidable 3rd line shutdown group, something along the lines of Moen-Pahlsson-Neidermayer that the Ducks used to kill a lot of teams top lines.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I'd put him on the top line with Kunitz and Crosby.

Likewise, Cooke-Sutter-Dupuis looks like a formidable 3rd line shutdown group, something along the lines of Moen-Pahlsson-Neidermayer that the Ducks used to kill a lot of teams top lines.

The Penguins don't really use a shutdown trio though, I don't think. They often just go power-on-power, which for them makes sense. Having a shutdown line just takes away minutes from Crosby and Malkin which doesn't make sense at all. Of course that would still make for a responsible 3rd line nonetheless.

I just like the idea of putting Iginla on the third line and making it a legitimate offensive threat. They would have three scoring lines and it wouldn't come at a cost to their top-6 in any way. Imagine Jarome Iginla going out against the oppositions third defensive pairing night in and night out.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I'd put him on the top line with Kunitz and Crosby.

Likewise, Cooke-Sutter-Dupuis looks like a formidable 3rd line shutdown group, something along the lines of Moen-Pahlsson-Neidermayer that the Ducks used to kill a lot of teams top lines.

The Penguins don't really use a shutdown trio though, I don't think. They often just go power-on-power, which for them makes sense. Having a shutdown line just takes away minutes from Crosby and Malkin which doesn't make sense at all. Of course that would still make for a responsible 3rd line nonetheless.

I just like the idea of putting Iginla on the third line and making it a legitimate offensive threat. They would have three scoring lines and it wouldn't come at a cost to their top-6 in any way. Imagine Jarome Iginla going out against the oppositions third defensive pairing night in and night out.

I hear you, but I think if you have him on that third line you're getting the player he was in Calgary, if you put him with Sid you have the Iggy of old.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I hear you, but I think if you have him on that third line you're getting the player he was in Calgary, if you put him with Sid you have the Iggy of old.

Playing against the worst competition he's seen in over a decade on a regular basis could also be a big boost for him though. I'm sure they'll try all possibilities until something clicks.

 

[Omallley]

So where exactly does Iginla play now? Bylsma likely won't break up Malkin and Neal, so it's either on the first line with Crosby or on the third line with Sutter and Cooke.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis/Iginla
Morrow-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Iginla/Dupuis

Personally, I would leave Iginla on the third line, at least to start. It's not like the first line is having difficulties scoring with Kunitz and Crosby anyway.

That is a ridiculous top 9.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I hear you, but I think if you have him on that third line you're getting the player he was in Calgary, if you put him with Sid you have the Iggy of old.

Playing against the worst competition he's seen in over a decade on a regular basis could also be a big boost for him though. I'm sure they'll try all possibilities until something clicks.

Good point sir, like you say they will find a way to make it work and will have a disgustingly good set of PP units.