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John Tavares a Leaf in 2018?

Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik the Trik said:
Isn't McDavid from Newmarket? Cause I feel like we're already pushing it with Markham.
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There's an exemption allowed for players who grew up with Leafs posters in their room.

But all that's still in the GTA.
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McDavid is from Richmond Hill, which is north of North York, and then later moved to Newmarket; Stamkos is from Unionville/Markham, which is just north of Scarborough. I counted up to 2 townships outside of the Toronto amalgamation.
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I still disapprove of anything north of St. Clair.
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Why don't you like Yonge Eggs?
 
FTR... I was pretty sure Stamkos was planning to come to the Leafs. It still might have happened if not for a few things that changed on both sides of the equation.  However, there is nothing at all out there that even hints at Tavares coming in a few years. I just don't see it. He'll sign the extension with the Islanders, and play out his days there in all likelihood. The big change to the Leafs this offseason is still the one I wanted the most to happen: landing Auston Matthews. Everything else that may or may not have happened so far this off season, was/is cannon fodder, for lack of a better term.

Exciting times are upon us in Leafland, and even without big name signings, things are starting to shape up. For those that didn't want Stamkos here because of cap space, I hope they are right about their reasons and their stance. The issue I have is this: The team, as it stands now will not be a bottom feeder again this season. They will not be a playoff team this season. That only leaves one other place to finish in the standings, and it is NOT the place we want to be hanging out in for however many more years to come.
 
RedLeaf said:
FTR... I was pretty sure Stamkos was planning to come to the Leafs. It still might have happened if not for a few things that changed on both sides of the equation.  However, there is nothing at all out there that even hints at Tavares coming in a few years. I just don't see it. He'll sign the extension with the Islanders, and play out his days there in all likelihood. The big change to the Leafs this offseason is still the one I wanted the most to happen: landing Auston Matthews. Everything else that may or may not have happened so far this off season, was/is cannon fodder, for lack of a better term.

Exciting times are upon us in Leafland, and even without big name signings, things are starting to shape up. For those that didn't want Stamkos here because of cap space, I hope they are right about their reasons and their stance. The issue I have is this: The team, as it stands now will not be a bottom feeder again this season. They will not be a playoff team this season. That only leaves one other place to finish in the standings, and it is NOT the place we want to be hanging out in for however many more years to come.
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But you never know about this upcoming season,they could be competitive in some ways,there is probably more changes coming...already a new goalie,a lot can change with stellar goaltending if it happens..look what a good netminder has done for Montreal.
 
You never know. Tavares in two years might be the right player at the right time. The Leafs might have taken good steps by then and be ready to compete and a 7 year deal might be a good idea.

But if there's anything people should learn from yesterday it's that any big ticket free agents being part of "the plan" is a sucker's bet. It's like "planning" on finding buried treasure. It's entirely outside of the team's control and as such, should only ever be seen as an opportunity and not a necessity. We need to remember how much noise and nonsense there is, how anonymous sources and ex-GM's and twitter likes are so often complete and total red herrings. Until a player makes it to July 1st and can field offers, and even then until we see the press conference announcing him as part of the team, it should always be seen as an unexpected boost, a happy coincidence, and not integral to what the team wants to do.
 
Nik the Trik said:
You never know. Tavares in two years might be the right player at the right time. The Leafs might have taken good steps by then and be ready to compete and a 7 year deal might be a good idea.

But if there's anything people should learn from yesterday it's that any big ticket free agents being part of "the plan" is a sucker's bet. It's like "planning" on finding buried treasure. It's entirely outside of the team's control and as such, should only ever be seen as an opportunity and not a necessity. We need to remember how much noise and nonsense there is, how anonymous sources and ex-GM's and twitter likes are so often complete and total red herrings. Until a player makes it to July 1st and can field offers, and even then until we see the press conference announcing him as part of the team, it should always be seen as an unexpected boost, a happy coincidence, and not integral to what the team wants to do.
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But, but, but..... Brian Lawton!
 
I hate that this thread exist. Are we really going to grow this thread to 1000 pages? Have we not learned from the Stamkos thread? I mean really, 2 years in advance of Tavares POTENTIALLY becoming a UFA? Guess what, Nash never became a UFA and neither did Stamkos. Sure NYI are s#@t a show today but that doesn't mean they will be 2 years from now.
 
cabber24 said:
I hate that this thread exist. Are we really going to grow this thread to 1000 pages? Have we not learned from the Stamkos thread? I mean really, 2 years in advance of Tavares POTENTIALLY becoming a UFA? Guess what, Nash never became a UFA and neither did Stamkos. Sure NYI are s#@t show today but that doesn't mean they will be 2 years from now.
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While I understand what you're saying, threads are only what we make them. The Stamkos thread was pretty quiet for a year until the possibility of him became a sooner rather than later thing.

Even then, I'd like to think Stamkos re-signing taught a few lessons about the way we talk about pending UFA's in the future.
 
Nik the Trik said:
cabber24 said:
I hate that this thread exist. Are we really going to grow this thread to 1000 pages? Have we not learned from the Stamkos thread? I mean really, 2 years in advance of Tavares POTENTIALLY becoming a UFA? Guess what, Nash never became a UFA and neither did Stamkos. Sure NYI are s#@t show today but that doesn't mean they will be 2 years from now.
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While I understand what you're saying, threads are only what we make them. The Stamkos thread was pretty quiet for a year until the possibility of him became a sooner rather than later thing.

Even then, I'd like to think Stamkos re-signing taught a few lessons about the way we talk about pending UFA's in the future.
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All NYI have to do is convince Tavares long enough, to write his name on a contract, that staying is a good idea and then they have him for another 8 years. They have a tonne a time to open that 10 second window.

Guys of Tavares caliber do not become UFAs.
 
cabber24 said:
All NYI have to do is convince Tavares long enough, to write his name on a contract, that staying is a good idea and then they have him for another 8 years. They have a tonne a time to open that 10 second window.

Guys of Tavares caliber do not become UFAs.
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For the most part I'm inclined to agree. I think that NHL GMs aren't going to let guys like that walk if there's a chance they don't.

That said, it's probably unrealistic to expect the "PLayer X grew up in the GTA and liked the Maple Leafs as a child, therefore he's determined to be a Leaf!" crew to retire completely.
 
Nik the Trik said:
cabber24 said:
All NYI have to do is convince Tavares long enough, to write his name on a contract, that staying is a good idea and then they have him for another 8 years. They have a tonne a time to open that 10 second window.

Guys of Tavares caliber do not become UFAs.
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For the most part I'm inclined to agree. I think that NHL GMs aren't going to let guys like that walk if there's a chance they don't.

That said, it's probably unrealistic to expect the "PLayer X grew up in the GTA and liked the Maple Leafs as a child, therefore he's determined to be a Leaf!" crew to retire completely.
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I don't know...clarkson did.  But bolland walked.

maybe it has more to do with money!!! lol
 
Firstly, I wouldn't want to go through the same crap we did with Stamkos.  It was a let down we didn't get him.  Also, we don't need another center at that point I don't think plus he will be something like 27/28?  I think that's too old for me to take a risk on a big contract with him at that time.
 
As a relatively new member to these boards, I enjoyed the Stamkos thread discussion immensely and getting to know people and how they process the game of being fans of the game. Pretty sure I didn't give full value to my place of employment during the course of that discussion.
 
I really just hope that now that the Stamkos thread is over, some posters will remember that if they don't like a thread they don't have to participate in it or even read it. Unless you're being held at gunpoint, in which case try to respond with a clever acrostic.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I really just hope that now that the Stamkos thread is over, some posters will remember that if they don't like a thread they don't have to participate in it or even read it. Unless you're being held at gunpoint, in which case try to respond with a clever acrostic.
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Home is where the heart is, and Stamkos' heart was in Tampa all along.
Elated though we may be at the prospect of a premiere player coming home, fueled by
Lawton's convictions, Stamkos never promised anyone anything about where he would sign.
Players have the right to choose where they work as much as the rest of us do.
 
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