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Komarov signs with the Islanders

Remember the free agency year the Leafs signed Jeff Finger. What a universe apart from that time that we are now
 
Zee said:
Remember the free agency year the Leafs signed Jeff Finger. What a universe apart from that time that we are now

lol

Or that time *we* signed Komorov and he was our best forward ...
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Bates said:
Uncle Leo follows Lou.

What a horrific signing by Lou.  It's kind of amazing that the Leafs survived Lou's tenure here relatively unscathed, a couple of troublesome contracts aside.
That's cause they had Shanahan and company, even though Lou says he had control I'm sure he couldn't just make any deal without a consensus first.

Saw a tweet from Jeff Veilette right after the Leo signing that said something like "I guess the Leafs kept the right GM". So true
 
Zee said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
Bates said:
Uncle Leo follows Lou.

What a horrific signing by Lou.  It's kind of amazing that the Leafs survived Lou's tenure here relatively unscathed, a couple of troublesome contracts aside.
That's cause they had Shanahan and company, even though Lou says he had control I'm sure he couldn't just make any deal without a consensus first.

Saw a tweet from Jeff Veilette right after the Leo signing that said something like "I guess the Leafs kept the right GM". So true
For a team that was so crap defensively, I guess I can see why Lou signed Leo. The dollar doesn't make a lot of sense tho. Best of luck to Leo. He was a good player for us but his time had passed.
 
The Islanders lost Kulemin, so they were looking for PK specialists. It?s too much term and AAV, but he fills that role.

Now they have 10M on the 4th line, but Komarov probably plays higher.
 
herman said:
The Islanders lost Kulemin, so they were looking for PK specialists. It?s too much term and AAV, but he fills that role.

Now they have 10M on the 4th line, but Komarov probably plays higher.

You know, one of the things they never mention is that the Titanic had really nice deck chairs.
 
Here's what I love about this signing. I'm going to go ahead and assume the the Leafs analytics department didn't think too highly of Komarov. And for most of past season they've probably been filing reports describing how poorly he was performing and how the team would have been better off with him getting reduced minutes. So either Lou just didn't bother reading any of those reports, or he completely disregarded the information they were provided.

Either way, I'm so glad that he isn't our GM anymore.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Here's what I love about this signing. I'm going to go ahead and assume the the Leafs analytics department didn't think too highly of Komarov. And for most of past season they've probably been filing reports describing how poorly he was performing and how the team would have been better off with him getting reduced minutes. So either Lou just didn't bother reading any of those reports, or he completely disregarded the information they were provided.

Either way, I'm so glad that he isn't our GM anymore.

This signing just reads so much like his time here for two reasons:

1. It seems like a arguably defensible move for a team at another stage of development but poorly fitting for where his team is now.

2. It's pretty clear that the way he made this deal is simply paying whatever it took to get it done.

I know I've been on this before but for all of the talk about him as a master deal-maker I can't think of a single example of Lamoriello making a move or signing someone from outside the organization where I thought "wow, what a great price". Nearly every deal he made where he didn't have the leverage of RFA status looks like he just paid full price.
 
Nik the Trik said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Here's what I love about this signing. I'm going to go ahead and assume the the Leafs analytics department didn't think too highly of Komarov. And for most of past season they've probably been filing reports describing how poorly he was performing and how the team would have been better off with him getting reduced minutes. So either Lou just didn't bother reading any of those reports, or he completely disregarded the information they were provided.

Either way, I'm so glad that he isn't our GM anymore.

This signing just reads so much like his time here for two reasons:

1. It seems like a arguably defensible move for a team at another stage of development but poorly fitting for where his team is now.

2. It's pretty clear that the way he made this deal is simply paying whatever it took to get it done.

I know I've been on this before but for all of the talk about him as a master deal-maker I can't think of a single example of Lamoriello making a move or signing someone from outside the organization where I thought "wow, what a great price". Nearly every deal he made where he didn't have the leverage of RFA status looks like he just paid full price.

Not to pile on or anything, but Lou's luster faded rapidly in his final years at NJ.  I'm not saying he was nothing more than a hepped-up Jay Feaster, mind you.

OK, I am piling on and saying that.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Here's what I love about this signing. I'm going to go ahead and assume the the Leafs analytics department didn't think too highly of Komarov. And for most of past season they've probably been filing reports describing how poorly he was performing and how the team would have been better off with him getting reduced minutes. So either Lou just didn't bother reading any of those reports, or he completely disregarded the information they were provided.

Either way, I'm so glad that he isn't our GM anymore.

I'm very glad he's gone. Wasn't a fan at all of his entire tenure, from his deal-making to his "rules" for players.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nik the Trik said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Here's what I love about this signing. I'm going to go ahead and assume the the Leafs analytics department didn't think too highly of Komarov. And for most of past season they've probably been filing reports describing how poorly he was performing and how the team would have been better off with him getting reduced minutes. So either Lou just didn't bother reading any of those reports, or he completely disregarded the information they were provided.

Either way, I'm so glad that he isn't our GM anymore.

This signing just reads so much like his time here for two reasons:

1. It seems like a arguably defensible move for a team at another stage of development but poorly fitting for where his team is now.

2. It's pretty clear that the way he made this deal is simply paying whatever it took to get it done.

I know I've been on this before but for all of the talk about him as a master deal-maker I can't think of a single example of Lamoriello making a move or signing someone from outside the organization where I thought "wow, what a great price". Nearly every deal he made where he didn't have the leverage of RFA status looks like he just paid full price.

Not to pile on or anything, but Lou's luster faded rapidly in his final years at NJ.  I'm not saying he was nothing more than a hepped-up Jay Feaster, mind you.

OK, I am piling on and saying that.
I mean Lou had this perceived "renaissance" with the Leafs the last 3 seasons. I say perceived because there was actually excited Islanders fans when he was hired. But if you actually look at the Leafs roster it was absolutely nothing to do  with Lou. I guess he traded for Andersen, but that's it in terms of core pieces.
 
Bullfrog said:
I'm very glad he's gone. Wasn't a fan at all of his entire tenure, from his deal-making to his "rules" for players.

Yeah. He did alright in that first season where the Leafs were clearing house, but, after that? Really, after the Andersen trade, it's nothing great - at least, nothing any other GM could possibly have pulled off.
 
bustaheims said:
Bullfrog said:
I'm very glad he's gone. Wasn't a fan at all of his entire tenure, from his deal-making to his "rules" for players.

Yeah. He did alright in that first season where the Leafs were clearing house, but, after that? Really, after the Andersen trade, it's nothing great.
I don't want to keep harping on it for fear of seeming like a Shanahan fanboy, but you have to give a ton of credit to Shanahan for the decision he made. I wonder if it was the plan all along to only have Lamoriello for the initial culture change / credibility angle while Dubas spent some time as an assistant and then promote Dubas OR did Shanahan ask Lamoriello what his intentions were going forward with the roster this year before he decided to move on? Maybe Shanahan, after hearing Lamoriello's thoughts on the future of the team realized that he was living in the past and wasn't the right man to bring this team forward. Had to be a tough decision to basically can the the guy he's known for 30 years.

TL; DR I love Shanahan
 
I think hiring Lou was still a good move to help with getting Dubas some more experience and helping the front office maybe gain new contacts and figure out a little more do how to play the old boy GM stuff but I don?t think there were really any crazy great moves made that make me think back fondly on Lou.

Moves like this signing are a nice reminder of why we aren?t suffering from moving on.  Dubas may not lead us to a Cup either but I have more faith in his hands at this point.
 
Zee said:
Had to be a tough decision to basically can the the guy he's known for 30 years.

Shanahan's father passed away a couple of years after the Devil's drafted him following a 3 year battle with Alzheimer's, so Lou was, according to Shanahan, basically a dad to him.
 
L K said:
I think hiring Lou was still a good move to help with getting Dubas some more experience and helping the front office maybe gain new contacts and figure out a little more do how to play the old boy GM stuff but I don?t think there were really any crazy great moves made that make me think back fondly on Lou.

Moves like this signing are a nice reminder of why we aren?t suffering from moving on.  Dubas may not lead us to a Cup either but I have more faith in his hands at this point.

The biggest move he should be remembered for, and maybe even revered for, is getting out from under Phaneuf's contract without retaining any salary.
 
Coco-puffs said:
The biggest move he should be remembered for, and maybe even revered for, is getting out from under Phaneuf's contract without retaining any salary.

Is that Lou we should thank, or Pierre Dorion?
 

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